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Fitz · #**741** (**permalink**) 04-09-2008, 06:05 PM

The solder is already pulled down into the hole, the hole is full!

Fitz · #**742** (**permalink**) 04-09-2008, 06:06 PM

Did you even look at the drawing I made?

*luvdunhill* · #**743** (**permalink**) 04-09-2008, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Fitz

The solder is already pulled down into the hole, the hole is full!

type, type, type.... delete, delete, delete...... TYPE, TYPE, TYPE.... delete, delete, delete....

*Smeggy* · #**744** (**permalink**) 04-09-2008, 06:08 PM

Nah, I've managed nice concave joints before. Not intentionally though, more cos I can't solder for shit and have never had a decent Iron. However, if you ever need your circuits Brazed, I'm your man

Fitz · #**745** (**permalink**) 04-09-2008, 06:10 PM

You've made normal looking concave joints with the leads cut flush to the solder pad before soldering?

*luvdunhill* · #**746** (**permalink**) 04-09-2008, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Fitz

You've made normal looking concave joints with the leads cut flush to the solder pad before soldering?

I take back everything I said, and would like to say:

WTF would you cut them flush before soldering?

Fitz · #**747** (**permalink**) 04-09-2008, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by luvdunhill

I take back everything I said, and would like to say:

WTF would you cut them flush before soldering?

Have you read ANYTHING posted so far?!

I only said it several times and even posted a DRAWING detailing it.

*Smeggy* · #**748** (**permalink**) 04-09-2008, 06:14 PM

I think mine was just getting sucked into the hole because the wire wasn't getting heated enough. I would imagine this was one of those 'cold' joints.

I can't solder well at all. I should really get someone to show me how to do it properly. When you two finish arguing is there a good place that shows how to solder properly with circuit boards etc?

*luvdunhill* · #**749** (**permalink**) 04-09-2008, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Fitz

Have you read ANYTHING posted so far?!

did you make that technique up?

deepak · #**750** (**permalink**) 04-09-2008, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Smeggy

Like I said, I can't solder well at all. I should really get someone to show me how to do it properly.

Tangent put up some really good soldering videos on his site. Heck I was able to give it a shot after watching them.

http://tangentsoft.net/elec/movies/

Fitz · #**751** (**permalink**) 04-09-2008, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by luvdunhill

did you make that technique up?

If you are that confused by cutting the leads flush, maybe you should not lecture other people on soldering.

*Smeggy* · #**752** (**permalink**) 04-09-2008, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by deepak

Tangent put up some really good soldering videos on his site. Heck I was able to give it a shot after watching them.

http://tangentsoft.net/elec/movies/

Cool, thanks deepak.

swt61 · #**753** (**permalink**) 04-09-2008, 06:20 PM

OK seriously guys...

!!!

I can vouch for both of your solder joints. Both of you know what the hell you're doing...no question!

I will say that if Norm Abrams himself questioned a wood joint I made that I knew to be solid, I'd be somewhat annoyed.

On the other hand knowing Marc, I know he didn't set out to do that.

*luvdunhill* · #**754** (**permalink**) 04-09-2008, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Fitz

If you are that confused by cutting the leads flush, maybe you should not lecture other people on soldering.

yup, I'm confused on this point and the self-proclaimed artistic license of creating domes on top of the solder joints. Cannot say I've ever seen anyone do either one of these things. Perhaps someone else around these parts has.

swt61 · #**755** (**permalink**) 04-09-2008, 06:31 PM

*luvdunhill* · #**756** (**permalink**) 04-09-2008, 06:31 PM

Fitz · #**757** (**permalink**) 04-09-2008, 06:38 PM

The flush cutting I learned from Jan Meier a long time ago, for making the solder joint low profile in certain purposes. Aside from the other reason already explained before (which you didn't read), it makes it easier to put the resistors that had to be mounted on the bottom, because they can be centered over the joints rather than having to be offset because the lead is sticking up in the middle. Makes it easier for me to avoid bridges when doing the resistors like that. Not necessary for the rest (aside from reason mentioned in earlier post), but it doesn't hurt anything because the main connection is with the plated through-hole, and there is also a "normal" joint on the component side of the board.

The flat joints looked more like an accidental bit of solder plugging the hole, rather than an actual joint. The dome looks better to me, and I know it is an actual joint I made and not where I accidentally smeared some solder over a hole. It also has no effect on performance (the joint would be 100% good even if the solder was flat, and it causes no harm with the dome), just appearance, so why does it freak you out so much?