Deus Ex

[ph0rk]

Originally Posted by humanflyz

I must have played the entire BG series like 5 or 6 times through, doing all the side quests/playing all the classes

Kensai/wizard dual class woo woo

[philodox]

Wait, which BG game allows you to be a Kensai?

[ph0rk]

Originally Posted by philodox

Wait, which BG game allows you to be a Kensai?

BG 2 - you have to make a fresh character and be human and can't multiclass (though you can dual class later).

if you specialized in katana and dual wield it was pretty disgusting (given you could cast high level wizard spells, too). the period where you waited for your wizard level to equal your kensai level sucked, though

[catscratch]

I hated Baldur's Gate (played 1 and 2). Far too much annoying and completely idiotic moralizing. They tried to make character interaction meaningful but if you do that, you'd better be able to write any kind of meaningful dialogue, otherwise you end up looking like a bunch of stuck-up buffoons.

I guess I'm just not a D&D type despite having played D&D quite a bit many years back. I hate the whole "good vs evil thing." If you're going to be morally pretentious, at least be realistic.

I have to say though, a few one-liners were absolutely hilarious. GO FOR THE EYES BOO!! GOO FOR THE EYES!!!

[ph0rk]

Originally Posted by catscratch

I hated Baldur's Gate (played 1 and 2). Far too much annoying and completely idiotic moralizing. They tried to make character interaction meaningful but if you do that, you'd better be able to write any kind of meaningful dialogue, otherwise you end up looking like a bunch of stuck-up buffoons.

what games that you have played have better dialog than BG1/2?

You didn't like the choice to be good evil or neutral?

[humanflyz]

Well, Planescape for one has way better dialogue/writing than BG

As for Bioware's recent games, yeah, they are all pretty enjoyable, but not up to their old standards.

[deepak]

Planescape: Torment is a rare game that managed to get me completely sucked into the world.

Fallout 1 and 2 are also brilliant.

I never played Baldur's Gate 1 or 2, but I hope to when I have some free time (free time )

[humanflyz]

You're gonna need a lot of time if you want to finish BG1+2 thoroughly (I'd estimately 150+ hours)

[deepak]

Originally Posted by humanflyz

You're gonna need a lot of time if you want to finish BG1+2 thoroughly (I'd estimately 150+ hours)

I know

[deepak]

Has anyone got Deus Ex to run on XP, and if so how?

[ojnihs]

Originally Posted by humanflyz

You're gonna need a lot of time if you want to finish BG1+2 thoroughly (I'd estimately 150+ hours)

that's part of the reason i never played it through all the way, never had that much spare time

[spritzer]

Originally Posted by deepak

Has anyone got Deus Ex to run on XP, and if so how?

Did you try all of the compatibility modes?

[deepak]

Originally Posted by spritzer

Did you try all of the compatibility modes?

I don't think so, I will try that

[EdipisReks]

hmm, it worked fine in Win2k, so definitely try the compatibility modes.

[deepak]

Originally Posted by EdipisReks

hmm, it worked fine in Win2k, so definitely try the compatibility modes.

I think I played it on Windows 98 or ME (shudder).

[EdipisReks]

heh, i ran ME for a while. more or less a nightmare. it would fail every 30 days and need to be reinstalled. kinda fucked up.

[Duggeh]

Deus ex runs fine on windows xp. What version of the game do you have and what is your graphics card?

[deepak]

Originally Posted by Duggeh

Deus ex runs fine on windows xp. What version of the game do you have and what is your graphics card?

I don't have the game with me, but I believe it's the game of the year edition. I was last trying to run it on my laptop which has an ATi 9700 pro using the latest (at the time) Omega drivers.

[catscratch]

Originally Posted by ph0rk

what games that you have played have better dialog than BG1/2?

You didn't like the choice to be good evil or neutral?

Well, Deus Ex for one. Just about any other game that didn't set its sights too high, for another. Gothic has a lot of extremely well written dialogue. The best out there is probably The Longest Journey, as well as the old-school Sierra games, like Space Quest, King's Quest, etc... and the best of that bunch was Quest for Glory (I only played 4 though, but it was terrific). Wing Commander 4 also had a tremendous storyline and dialogue; if you look at the cinematics alone it was a much better movie than the atrocity that was released in the theaters.

Yes, I think D&D alignments are utterly ridiculous. People don't think that way, and if they do, they're mad. Basing a whole bunch of moralizing dialogue in a game on this alignment system is a recipe for disaster in my book. If not for that bit, I would have liked the series a good deal more.

[ph0rk]

Originally Posted by catscratch

Yes, I think D&D alignments are utterly ridiculous. People don't think that way, and if they do, they're mad.

People don't cast fireballs, either. BG let you be however good or evil you wanted, but your actions had consequences with your companions - I don't see the problem with that. It actually got quite interesting when you had the paladin and the evil cleric in your party.


I don't know if I'd call BG the greatest game of all time, but I'd say it has a fighting chance to be in my top ten. But then, opinions differ: I never liked the old sierra games, myself, I found them quite boring.

Well, except Leisure Suit Larry, but come on.