Ye Macce Threade

[jinp6301]

This is probably only relevant for myself but ONLY Adobe CS4 apps are approved to work with Snow Leopard. Probably doesnt mean that older versions won't work but its still a factor :P

[Sherwood]

This is probably only relevant for myself but ONLY Adobe CS4 apps are approved to work with Snow Leopard. Probably doesnt mean that older versions won't work but its still a factor :P

Interesting. I'll be testing CS2 on it tomorrow after I get it running. Some of my plugins don't cooperate with 4, so I keep 2 around (and in general prefer it for my limited applications).

[bperboy]

Just got a Macrumors post.. seems CS3 pretty much does work, but Adobe hasn't tested it rigorously enough to declare it 'supported'.

[blessingx]

Apple OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard) - Full Review - PC Magazine

[mirumu]

I'm still setting everything up as I went with a fresh install. The reviews are quite right saying there's lots of little changes. The new Finder is far speedier although it's still easy enough to get the spinning beachball when working with network directories.

This was the weirdest thing I've stumbled across with SL so far.

[Hopstretch]

Snappeh!

[Dusty Chalk]

So it's a mixed mode operating system, you can direct it to perform 32-bit or 64-bit operations, at a high level? That's some pretty fucking awesome.

[Salt Peanuts]

Unfortunately, I think I'm going to hold off on SL for a bit since few of my apps appears to be not working properly on SL.

[mirumu]

It appears to be fully mixed mode. By default it will install a 32-bit kernel, but this can still run 64-bit apps. You can install a 64-bit kernel which supposedly is faster, but only specific newer Macs can boot the 64-bit kernel. Unfortunately my MacBookPro2,2 can't. If you run the 64-bit kernel you need 64-bit drivers and apparently some apps do not work. This is why it is not set as the default.

When running applications the OS seems to prefer 64-bit versions if they're available. You can force 32-bit as that alert box implied. If I recall correctly there's no limit on architecture of code fragments or how many code fragments a Fat binary can have, so I assume in this case there are separate 64-bit and 32-bit code fragments in the app.

For those needing more backwards compatibility Rosetta and Quicktime 7 are install options that are not enabled by default. I'm seeing a lot of talk online about various programs and media files not working, but I'm finding that in many cases they do work if these are installed.

[Hopstretch]

Main oddity. 10.6 install has nuked all keyboard shortcuts, even system ones. (Command-C etc.)

[Voltron]

How do I boot from the install disk so I can wipe this Powerbook clean before reinstalling OSX?

[grawk]

powerbook or macbook? powerbook won't run 10.6

To boot from cd, hold down the option key as you boot, then pick it from the list.

[Voltron]

Powerbook, which will have 10.5 on it. Thanks, couldn't remember the key to hold down.

[Sherwood]

You can also hold down "c" to boot directly to the disc.

[mirumu]

Main oddity. 10.6 install has nuked all keyboard shortcuts, even system ones. (Command-C etc.)

Command-C and the other basic shortcuts are working here. Sounds like something's amiss. I'm not a big keyboard shortcut user though so I probably wouldn't notice if the more exotic ones had been changed.

[GPH]

This morning, I walked into a BestBuy where they sell Apple products and asked an employee in the computer section: "Did you receive copies of Snow Leopard yet?". Answer: "Sorry buddy, I don't know what you're talking about." It turned out they didn't have any copies yet, but I'm shocked how uninformed some employees there are.

Will go to an Apple store tomorrow.

[Hopstretch]

Command-C and the other basic shortcuts are working here. Sounds like something's amiss. I'm not a big keyboard shortcut user though so I probably wouldn't notice if the more exotic ones had been changed.

It was a 3rd-party program causing the problem. Specifically, 1Password.

[The Monkey]

This morning, I walked into a BestBuy where they sell Apple products and asked an employee in the computer section: "Did you receive copies of Snow Leopard yet?". Answer: "Sorry buddy, I don't know what you're talking about." It turned out they didn't have any copies yet, but I'm shocked how uninformed some employees there are.

Will go to an Apple store tomorrow.

I don't like it when strangers call me "buddy."

[GPH]

I don't like it when strangers call me "buddy."

Yeah, I don't like it either. In fact, it was "mon ami" in French, which is on the same level of familiarity as buddy. Anyway, the guy looked like a dumb non-techie employee who's just there to sell extended warranties so I didn't bother too long with him and went on my own searching for a SL copy.

[GPH]

Just caught this post on another forum, any truth in that or audiophool hallucination?

Apple Snow Leopard.. A cheap hi-fi upgrade? ...At least for Intel Mac owners anyway.

Having completely sold my soul to Steve Jobs in the last couple of years, I decided to shell out the £25 for an upgrade from Mac OSX Leopard to the new Snow Leopard today - for all the right reasons of course - improvements to the UI, increase in speed etc. and fair play, for £25 it was worth it just for that. It all runs a LOT quicker and just feels a lot more solid.

Reading into the changes however, I discovered something I hadn't realised.. Core Audio has been completely re-written. It seems that although pretty much everything looks the same, all of the changes have been made under the bonnet. So I thought.. As you do... I wonder if that's going to affect sound quality.

My conclusion after 4 hours of enjoying every note played out of my Macbook's optical port is "Yes it has done". With exactly the same setup as on my previous Leopard install - iTunes, Audio MIDI setup on 44.1/16-bit, optical into my Caiman these are my impressions of the changes:

Bass has become more taught, vocals have even more projection into the room. Instrument decay has improved: I loved the way that Joanna Newsom's used harp strings just seemed to hang in the air in front of you, quite breathtaking. When the music gets complicated and there's layers and layers of instruments, it's just more composed and never becomes mushy. It's more solid all round.

Something else I picked up on which was a surprise was the improvement in pace, phrasing and pitch. I became more aware of even the slightest deviations in pitch on a sustained note. There's also more absolute minute detail. You could probably hear a pin drop in an auditorium now.

I'd be really interested to know if anyone else has tried Snow Leopard and experienced improvements, or is it all just down to the fact that it's a clean install? I don't THINK it is as the old Leopard install wasn't that old and wasn't exactly clogged up with apps, but it would be good to get a second opinion.

Also, if you're pondering over Snow Leopard - just get it. For £25 it's a steal, and probably one of the cheapest hi-fi upgrades you'll get.