New O2 + KGSS Rig

[spritzer]

Originally Posted by Icarium

Mehhhhh.

Next question so.. HE90s were pretty scary to buy used since they are known to be insanely delicate. A dropped HE90 = a worthless one or so I've heard (Not that anyone should be dropping 3-4 figure headphones either but...)... are O2s as susceptible to drops destroying them completely as their fellow electrostatics are?

The He90 is just badly designed and so is the SR-Ω for that matter but the SR-007 is much, much stronger. The drivers are bolted to a plastic subassembly which is then mounted to the aluminum frame. The only real flaw with the Mk1 design is the ineffective strain relief on the cable which can cause the cable to break but it's easy enough to replace (100$ for a new cable if I'm not mistaken) and if you have have a SR-007BL then the new Mk2 cable should fit where this isn't a problem.

Even though I baby all of my gear, my old SR-007 did fall to the floor once ,when I turned my head to fast and the headphones stayed in place, but there wasn't a mark on them and they still sound excellent.

Originally Posted by deepak

I'll let spritzer go into the technicalities, but I think PCB stators was one of the reasons they hold up.

The PCB stators are indeed what makes them so good yet strong along with the attention to detail i.e. how to get rid of all the resonances inside the drivers. Both the He90 and the SR-Ω get "confused" at high volume as the drivers can't get rid of all the energy (a major issue with all planar design) while with the SR-007 the energy is transferred out of the drivers, through the housing and into the head. This also makes the stators very inert and stable so they can sustain shocks and bumps much better then other designs.

[Icarium]

Excellent. Used O2 here I come. I will of course still insist on pictures, but maybe not a notarized pedigree dating back to Adam and Eve.

[spritzer]

Originally Posted by Icarium

Excellent. Used O2 here I come. I will of course still insist on pictures, but maybe not a notarized pedigree dating back to Adam and Eve.

[grawk]

splitting out the what is jazz stuff

[ymv]

Hey Todd, congrats on the rig! I have the KGSS and O2mk1 and really enjoy it.

I was wondering how you find it compared to a speaker rig. I really like the headphones, but was considering some speakers for say background music. I keep tossing up whether to find a good speaker and amp, or to go for say something like a quad 11L active and not worry too much about getting awesome sound quality and paying a fortune, as I can just go the KGSS+O2 for that... What are your thoughts on that?

[tkam]

While I really do enjoy the O2+KGSS rig if you have the space for a good speaker rig it's not even close really.

[ymv]

wow, really... This may be a big one, but how so?

[boomana]

Originally Posted by ymv

wow, really... This may be a big one, but how so?

Did you think about possible answers to your question before you asked? If you know about both the O2/KGSS and quad 11L active speakers, my guess is that you've been around audio or, at least, audio forums long enough to know the obvious answers.

[morphsci]

Originally Posted by Icarium

I kinda wish I had some idea of how it sounds versus a ES-1... but the finality of a BHSE (No upgrades) is pretty appealing to me.

Originally Posted by Icarium

Well shoot if you end up getting them both by some miracle perhaps finally we can have someone do a comparison

Well I should be able to do some comparisons in a few months

[aardvark baguette]

I've come very close to getting new speakers, but ultimately decided against it, as I dont know what my living situation will be down the road. Very frustrating.
Though my family is apparently planning on getting a beach house, so now I get to try to convince them to designate a room to 'media'. I cant sell them on an 'audio room', but if I sell it to them as 'media', it may work Still a long shot though...

[deepak]

Originally Posted by aardvark sandwich

I've come very close to getting new speakers, but ultimately decided against it, as I dont know what my living situation will be down the road. Very frustrating.
Though my family is apparently planning on getting a beach house, so now I get to try to convince them to designate a room to 'media'. I cant sell them on an 'audio room', but if I sell it to them as 'media', it may work Still a long shot though...:-

Move out and you can do whatever you want (baring no roomates).

If I told my dad I wanted a room in their house just for a 2-channel setup he'd probably slap me :P

[aardvark baguette]

Originally Posted by deepak

Move out and you can do whatever you want (baring no roomates).

If I told my dad I wanted a room in their house just for a 2-channel setup he'd probably slap me :P

But alot of the apartments I'm interested in...I don't think speakers would be tolerated, if played above a whisper

I'm not truly going to get what I want until I buy a house. Too bad they're like .5 million dollars here now
Not in this lifetime, I guess. No way I'm taking on that much debt.

[EdipisReks]

the secret is to find an apartment that is in an old building with thick walls.

[aaron313]

Originally Posted by GPH

That looks like crappyjones123 from that other site.

[boomana]

Originally Posted by aaron313

That looks like crappyjones123 from that other site.

Our friend, cj, is also now on this site. Yay for math geeks!

[Dusty Chalk]

Are they math geeks because they end their user names in numbers?

[jinp6301]

Am I a math geek too? Go Mathletes?!?!

[ymv]

Hello Boomana,

I guess I was asking about more specific qualities, not so much the general differences b/w speakers and headphones; but perhaps that is all there is to it...

Thanks

[aaron313]

Originally Posted by boomana

Our friend, cj, is also now on this site. Yay for math geeks!

Actually I just noticed that after I made the post. And yes, hooray for all geeks!

[Icarium]

Yeah i don't know if I'm an O2 guy. It sounded congested with the blue hawaii se/nwo 3.0. Is this an acquired taste thing? Will I listen to it in a quiet surrounding for a period time and the sound will decongest and become depth?

Does anyone else feel me on this congestion thing? Maybe not.