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    Finally got a chance to hear the Grado HF-2 today at absorbine's when Beely brought his set to the meeting. Not only that, he was nice enough to loan them to me as well. Listened a bit at Mike's on the Zana, and my first thought was "whoa, this sounds pretty much like a PS-1", or as what Jim calls them, baby ps-1's.

    Fired them up a bit on the moth this evening, and I am really really really impressed. I can't get over how much they remind me of the PS-1's, but the bass is not as big, which to my ears is a good thing. I have always listened to and preferred bowls on the PS-1's, but even then the bass can get a bit overbearing. With the HF-2 I found it to share the same fullness in the mids but slightly lesser bass which I find to be more balanced. The top end has a nice sparkle on top without the sizzle that plagues some of the John grados, and I do feel it has a similar cohesiveness, a liquidity that runs from bottom to top with a nice full sound, very enjoyable.

    Other than the slightly less bass quantity, I found that the HF-2 did NOT have the upper midrange glare, what I call "shout" that I have heard on practically every John Grado can, including the post vintage RS-1's, PS-1, and GS1000. On first impression I find them even more balanced than the PS-1, the PS-1 was to me the most balanced and refined John Grado can though the bass being a bit too heavy and the upper midrange shout still present. The HF-2 to my ears doesn't have those 2 issues hence why I find them more balanced. I would be curious to hear the PS-1000's as Todd as described the HF-2 as a baby ps1000. All impressions are with bowls - the flats make them sound very weird to me, more closed in, the bass becomes muddy and congested, just like how the PS-1 sounds to my ears on flats, somewhat unlistenable to me past 5 minutes. Also it has been maybe a couple of months since I have had PS-1's in house so take the acoustic memory effect into...effect.

    Build quality - at least on Billy's pair the glue on the rim of the inner wooden chamber to the outer aluminum chamber is done pretty nicely. I was surpised to see that the whole inner chamber, even the part that is within the outer enclosure, is wood, and it appears the aluminum is braced around a wooden chamber. Interesting. I wish the etching of the letters was maybe a bit deeper, but I don't feel like playing the les garten card either.

    I am happy with my order with Todd, and I shall continue to bother Todd about shipment with a call tomorrow. I would also like to thank Billy for loaning them out to me, he probably was getting annoyed by how often I bug him about them

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    PS1000 = more bass bloat than the PS1 = bleh!
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    Quote Originally Posted by recstar24 View Post
    I would be curious to hear the PS-1000's as Todd as described the HF-2 as a baby ps1000.
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    PS1000 = more bass bloat than the PS1 = bleh!
    Never mind the ps1000 curiosity now

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    Granted, it was only meet listening, but I'd much rather have an HF2 than a PS1000 (assuming I was actually listening to them, not selling them )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron_Dreamer View Post
    Granted, it was only meet listening, but I'd much rather have an HF2 than a PS1000 (assuming I was actually listening to them, not selling them )
    I got to hear them on CanJam Friday in quiet conditions and agree 100% with your opinion. There will not be a pair of PS1000s heading my way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by guzziguy View Post
    I got to hear them on CanJam Friday in quiet conditions and agree 100% with your opinion. There will not be a pair of PS1000s heading my way.
    I know this may seem strange, but I think they're kind of expensive!!! At least a lot more expensive than I think they ought to be for the excellent but not in any way Earth shattering sound quality. I agree that under meet conditions the HF2 seemed to be every bit as good. I've got my pair now, but can't seem to quite listening to the HD800 for some reason.

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    While I didn't hear them side-by-side, I thought the PS1Ks had less bass bloat on most equipment than the PS1s (or GS1Ks for that matter). I'm in the PS1Ks are a midrange-fixed GS1Ks camp. Course that's assuming you found something attractive about the GS1Ks in the first place, which doesn't seem to be the case for many.

    And I'm still waiting for the HF2s to arrive, but from my time at CJ, and comparing on both Todds amps against the RS1 as I mentioned above, I didn't find them as balanced as some of you. Then again many of you have spent more time with them, I'm not sure the burn-in time on each phone and I really only spent significant time on the two amps. Still looking forward to them though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blessingx View Post
    I'm in the PS1Ks are a midrange-fixed GS1Ks camp.
    Glad to hear this camp exits, because I'm in it. The PS1K still suffers from some of the ssssssssssssibilance problems of the GS1K, but the midrange is back, and the bass and soundstage are still awesome. If it wasn't goddamn $1700 I might consider it.

    Let it be known that I am 100% a flats guy, but I definitely prefer the bowls with the HF-2. So I guess I'm like 95% a flats guy now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by postjack View Post
    Let it be known that I am 100% a flats guy, but I definitely prefer the bowls with the HF-2. So I guess I'm like 95% a flats guy now.
    With you on that. They're horrible with flats.
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    With you on that. They're horrible with flats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by postjack View Post
    Glad to hear this camp exits, because I'm in it. The PS1K still suffers from some of the ssssssssssssibilance problems of the GS1K, but the midrange is back, and the bass and soundstage are still awesome. If it wasn't goddamn $1700 I might consider it.

    Let it be known that I am 100% a flats guy, but I definitely prefer the bowls with the HF-2. So I guess I'm like 95% a flats guy now.
    I listened to the HF-2 last weekend at Absorbine's as well. I have not really listened to a lot of high-end Grados, but would consider myself a flats guy as well. Bowls were to be equated with drilling holes in my ears from my experience, but I figured all of you who waxed on about bowls couldn't have that bad of ears. I was pleasantly surprised that I liked the HF-2s. With bowls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron_Dreamer View Post
    Granted, it was only meet listening, but I'd much rather have an HF2 than a PS1000 (assuming I was actually listening to them, not selling them )
    Quote Originally Posted by guzziguy View Post
    I got to hear them on CanJam Friday in quiet conditions and agree 100% with your opinion. There will not be a pair of PS1000s heading my way.
    I agree with both of these guys. I think i am gonna get an HF2.


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    Quote Originally Posted by blubliss View Post
    I agree with both of these guys. I think i am gonna get an HF2 though.
    I agree as well. I was not impressed by the PS1000. I also prefer bowls with the HF2.

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    Mine have bowls on now and I think that is the way they will stay. I have not listened to them since Ari balanced them for me but I assume I will still prefer bowls.

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    I tried listening with flats last night and they exhibited the flaws that you guys are all complaining about. HF-2, like HF-1, were made to play with bowls and I think that is how they sound best. I guess my new flats can just be backup for the PS-1 which I unquestionably like better with flats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopstretch View Post
    With you on that. They're horrible with flats.
    yeah, except for the fact that they are much better with flats.
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    Default Re: Grado HF-2 thread

    yup, I think hf2 is better with flats

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    So it sounds like the consensus is that bowls are the best except for flats, which are bester.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Monkey View Post
    So it sounds like the consensus is that bowls are the best except for flats, which are bester.
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