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    Mmmm Ayre... Could be very interesting.
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    Interesting that Wavelength licensed out the USB asynch technology to Ayre, who is their competitor. Perhaps they figured their markets are different being tube vs. SS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon L View Post
    Interesting that Wavelength licensed out the USB asynch technology to Ayre, who is their competitor. Perhaps they figured their markets are different being tube vs. SS?
    I think its a smart move - another source of revenue for wavelength. Happens in business all the time, a company that you are competing with is also a major supplier or customer as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spritzer View Post
    Mmmm Ayre... Could be very interesting.
    Indeed. Charles Hansen is a regular, and outspoken, participant on Audio Asylum; just did a search there with minimal joy.


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    Hansen's been hinting at this for a long time (for the past several months) over at AA. Looks cool, and with Ayre behind this, I have high expectations particularly on the technical side. Going to try and secure a local auditioning session when it comes out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon L View Post
    Interesting that Wavelength licensed out the USB asynch technology to Ayre, who is their competitor. Perhaps they figured their markets are different being tube vs. SS?
    Charles and Gordon do seem to be quite friendly with each other at a forum they frequent (diyhifi.org).

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    The guy from wavelength appears to be really helpful to all (not that I will buy his stuff). He seems to be honestly interested in helping anyone get the best out of their computer audio.

    Also it's possible that he has a patent on the tech and it was cheaper for him to let Ayre license vs going into patent litigation. Just a guess at best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadhead View Post
    Also it's possible that he has a patent on the tech and it was cheaper for him to let Ayre license vs going into patent litigation. Just a guess at best.
    i don't think "license" means what you think it means.
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    I think that was a perfect usage of the term license as it refers to patents. And how that generally works.

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    he seems to suggest that not suing is cheaper than licensing. well yes, since the point of licensing is that the company that holds the patent makes money. there is nothing that suggests that it was the threat of litigation that caused Ayre to license the tech.
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    No, he's suggesting that licensing is cheaper than going through the litigation process.

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    thanks for the tautology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grawk View Post
    No, he's suggesting that licensing is cheaper than going through the litigation process.
    Yup. Just ask my wife the intellectual property ligation lawyer.

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    licensing being cheaper than litigation isn't the question.
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    Cheaper for Ayre, not Wavelength. Clearly, advantageous for Wavelength.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdipisReks View Post
    licensing being cheaper than litigation isn't the question.
    "To litigate or to license, that is the question"

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    Quote Originally Posted by ph0rk View Post
    (or that's how I read it)
    might be how you read it, but it's not what it says.

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    As I read it, it was saying "rather than fight to keep them from using the technology with no recourse, wavelength chose to license the technology to them. This enabled them to protect their intellectual property while saving both the cost of litigation"

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    Quote Originally Posted by grawk View Post
    As I read it, it was saying "rather than fight to keep them from using the technology with no recourse, wavelength chose to license the technology to them. This enabled them to protect their intellectual property while saving both the cost of litigation"
    YAY

    And I would like to make clear again that this is a HUGE guess.

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