Ipod Touch / Iphone

[aardvark baguette]

You know what; to hell with 3G, to hell with 64GB; what I really want need is the ability to drag and drop music like the ipod. I hate having to keep playlists in iTunes.

If I convert lossless to mp3 for the purpose of putting on the iphone, I want to delete the mp3 from the library afterwards (not the hard drive; just the visual library). I cant do that, because the next album I want to add later, anything I removed from the library will be erased from the iphone.

If they can provide ipod-like support for drag and drop, I will be much happier.

Syncing takes away all user control, imo.

[grawk]

Originally Posted by aardvark sandwich

You know what; to hell with 3G, to hell with 64GB; what I really want need is the ability to drag and drop music like the ipod. I hate having to keep playlists in iTunes.

If I convert lossless to mp3 for the purpose of putting on the iphone, I want to delete the mp3 from the library afterwards (not the hard drive; just the visual library). I cant do that, because the next album I want to add later, anything I removed from the library will be erased from the iphone.

If they can provide ipod-like support for drag and drop, I will be much happier.

Syncing takes away all user control, imo.

Doug's apple scripts can handle the lossless/mp3 issue without any problems.

Considering how database driven the ipod etc are, it's no surprise you have to use a software interface. But is it that hard really to just use itunes for syncing?

Personally, I just use itunes for everything. I like the interface. But I don't use winders.

[laxx]

I likes drag and drop. I thought about getting a touch for signal (damn you Grawk for posting it!), but no drap and drop killed it for me as I've never used iTunes and don't plan to.

[grawk]

Originally Posted by laxx

I likes drag and drop. I thought about getting a touch for signal (damn you Grawk for posting it!), but no drap and drop killed it for me as I've never used iTunes and don't plan to.

Signal is only useful for itunes. And why banish itunes never having used it? It's the best media management software I've ever used.

[n_maher]

Originally Posted by grawk

Signal is only useful for itunes. And why banish itunes never having used it? It's the best media management software I've ever used.

I'm an itunes hater by nature, but it's easy enough (and 10x better than the Zune software) that I don't mind using it to load/unload media with the Touch.

[laxx]

Originally Posted by grawk

Signal is only useful for itunes. And why banish itunes never having used it? It's the best media management software I've ever used.

It can control Winamp and WMP.

[tkam]

I hate iTunes but I don't mind using it to sync/update my iPhone. Mostly because I don't need to sync that often.

[grawk]

Originally Posted by laxx

It can control Winamp and WMP.

Ah, ok.

Well, signal works with quite a few palmtops, not just the touch. The touch just happens to be the best one. I use the nokia770 with some success with signal.

[ojnihs]

Originally Posted by grawk

Ah, ok.

Well, signal works with quite a few palmtops, not just the touch. The touch just happens to be the best one. I use the nokia770 with some success with signal.

so you waiting for a bigger capacity iTouch or a price drop? refurb 16 gb seems like a good deal

[grawk]

Originally Posted by ojnihs

so you waiting for a bigger capacity iTouch or a price drop? refurb 16 gb seems like a good deal

I'm waiting for the ipod to rise to the top of my priority list

[ojnihs]

Originally Posted by grawk

I'm waiting for the ipod to rise to the top of my priority list

[grawk]

Originally Posted by ojnihs

I've already got a 1st gen nano and a shuffle and a palmtop and a motorola q and a laptop and a mac mini, and well, you get the point

I just don't listen mobile-ly enough yet to justify. And i'm hoping apple comes out with a bigger tablet.

[ojnihs]

Originally Posted by grawk

I've already got a 1st gen nano and a shuffle and a palmtop and a motorola q and a laptop and a mac mini, and well, you get the point

I just don't listen mobile-ly enough yet to justify. And i'm hoping apple comes out with a bigger tablet.

damn, lots of electronics

i hear you on the not listening enough mobilely part. i'm the opposite, hence why it confuses me as to why i keep a dedicated setup at all.

[grawk]

Originally Posted by ojnihs

damn, lots of electronics

i hear you on the not listening enough mobilely part. i'm the opposite, hence why it confuses me as to why i keep a dedicated setup at all.

I work at home, and have my full rig here in my office. Speakers, headphones, balanced amp, mac mini, etc.

[laxx]

The Touch would be at the bottom of my list if I were you as well. I didn't even care about a portable rig a few months back because I was driving to work, but now I take public transportation for a little under 3 hours a day. =T

[EdipisReks]

Originally Posted by Dusty Chalk

iSuppli's breakdown of iPhone costs

I don't think they can come down that much more.

isuppli's break downs are barely educated guesses.

[EdipisReks]

Originally Posted by aardvark sandwich

what I really want need is the ability to drag and drop music like the ipod.

there isn't a "manually manage music and videos" under iPhone preferences? if not, it's a weird omission.

[Dusty Chalk]

Originally Posted by EdipisReks

isuppli's break downs are barely educated guesses.

Well, here's the thing. I mentioned this to someone, and they couldn't believe that it was an actual Apple iPhone, and suggested that it was most probably a knock-off.

[EdipisReks]

Originally Posted by Dusty Chalk

Well, here's the thing. I mentioned this to someone, and they couldn't believe that it was an actual Apple iPhone, and suggested that it was most probably a knock-off.

sounds like a knock off to me. take one for the team and see if it's real

[Dusty Chalk]

And the reasoning they used was that it cost more than that to make.