shellylh Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) I think I am going to my dad a new basic desktop computer. His computer is about a million years old but he is way too cheap and stubborn to replace it. I think I may get him a Dell Inspiron 3000. It has a reasonable processor (Intel Quad Core 4th gen i5 3.2GHz), is not too expensive, has 8GB RAM, and I can always upgrade to an SSD if needed. He doesn't do much on it (just listens to music, some basic spreadsheets, and browses the web). I can get it with Window 7 or 8. I am leaning towards 7 because 8 is pretty different than he is used to using (XP). Is there any reason to go with Windows 8? For example, is Windows going to stop supporting 7 or is Windows 8 more secure? Edited December 9, 2014 by shellylh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 Windows 8.1 is what I'd go with. Rip the bandaid off. 8.1 is more secure, it works better, and going forward it will continue to be supported. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cetoole Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 Support for XP was just dropped a few months ago, so I doubt 7 is going away any time soon. I think 8 is probably the way to go, with a skin like classic shell if the older interface is preferred, but either works fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 XP was an outlier, tho. I predict microsoft starts dropping support WAY faster going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shellylh Posted December 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 OK thanks. I'll just go with Windows 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grahame Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 .1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shellylh Posted December 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 ^Well, yes, I meant that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcpoor Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) yeah, go with windows 8 with something like classic shell/classic start menu installed. old windows feel/interface with the under the hood benefits of win8. Edited December 9, 2014 by dcpoor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsavitsk Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 Support for XP was just dropped a few months ago, so I doubt 7 is going away any time soon. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/lifecycle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 there ya go, 1 month left on windows 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shellylh Posted December 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 Thanks Doug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadphoneAddict Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/lifecycle there ya go, 1 month left on windows 7. Crap - I sat on my Windows 7 Ultimate for almost 2 years, before finally installing it last February in Boot Camp because XP was going to lose support (only to run Quicken financial software). If I don't run anything except Quicken, not even IE and I have no email accounts installed (nor any other apps other than McAfee and Quicken), would it be safe to keep using 7 after support runs out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadtonowhere08 Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) Nope. After support runs out, your computer bursts into flames and your bank accounts are drained. I would not chance it. You'll be fine. Just don't enter into any agreements with any Nigerian princes or shit like that. I'm still on 7, and I see no reason to upgrade to any of the turds Microsoft has foisted onto us as of late. Edited December 9, 2014 by roadtonowhere08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon L Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 Stuff happened to my computer. Long story short, I had "opportunity" to compare Win 7 to Win 8.1 on the same computer multiple times, and win 8.1 beats the pants off 7 on start-up and shut-off times. I hate metro, but installing Classic Shell fixed that quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
padam Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 Under the skin the Windows 8 is better, but the interface is absolutely terrible. I will continue using the 7 until the 10 comes out (and maybe when they get a SP1 out), there's just nothing really wrong with it right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 I personally wouldn't use a computer on the internet if it was running an operating system not receiving active security patching. But my job has me paranoid that way. If you don't have any information you would care if it got put in a database to be resold, and you don't mind if other people make use of your spare network bandwidth and computational cycles, then it matters less, I guess. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_maher Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 XP was an outlier, tho. I predict microsoft starts dropping support WAY faster going forward. You think, even with big Gov just adopting it last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 I think govt will pay for extended support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augsburger Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 I think I am going to my dad a new basic desktop computer. His computer is about a million years old but he is way too cheap and stubborn to replace it. I think I may get him a Dell Inspiron 3000. It has a reasonable processor (Intel Quad Core 4th gen i5 3.2GHz), is not too expensive, has 8GB RAM, and I can always upgrade to an SSD if needed. He doesn't do much on it (just listens to music, some basic spreadsheets, and browses the web). I can get it with Window 7 or 8. I am leaning towards 7 because 8 is pretty different than he is used to using (XP). Is there any reason to go with Windows 8? For example, is Windows going to stop supporting 7 or is Windows 8 more secure? If you go Dell and are willing to shop in Staples- http://easy.staples.com/pub/sf/FormLink?_ri_=X0Gzc2X%3DWQpglLjHJlYQGNK9U2zg1XJ3ezgIShPuC4SER7czgJstE4zgyzb7OFfVXMtX%3DWQpglLjHJlYQGj5jdry2zg07Arkk1nLpKk12inBc33gw7zcMst&_ei_=Ej19Zi0pxIzu0ERfGyfvPDmJwONQoXWJfSoKPPobj1tVRDiasfPK_W9Eiy5CPe4P8CThfP6Ye7qZbM308qmRCPm2ZpTLT-mWAxYm063Mgjs3wtv18fYo_GgHGPCmfrW7vMERyadbS-SjHWxcndcWcAA1Z0dSOT1xr1ElZhARNyJCu9w1gMddIZNgpCKI0s6kd9iR. I hope this helps. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt Peanuts Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 My in-laws switched to 8.1 recently from XP and they've been fine with the changes for the most part. I should I install Classic Shell for them, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcpoor Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 If you go Dell and are willing to shop in Staples- http://easy.staples.com/pub/sf/FormLink?_ri_=X0Gzc2X%3DWQpglLjHJlYQGNK9U2zg1XJ3ezgIShPuC4SER7czgJstE4zgyzb7OFfVXMtX%3DWQpglLjHJlYQGj5jdry2zg07Arkk1nLpKk12inBc33gw7zcMst&_ei_=Ej19Zi0pxIzu0ERfGyfvPDmJwONQoXWJfSoKPPobj1tVRDiasfPK_W9Eiy5CPe4P8CThfP6Ye7qZbM308qmRCPm2ZpTLT-mWAxYm063Mgjs3wtv18fYo_GgHGPCmfrW7vMERyadbS-SjHWxcndcWcAA1Z0dSOT1xr1ElZhARNyJCu9w1gMddIZNgpCKI0s6kd9iR. I hope this helps. http://weeklyad.staples.com/StaplesSD/WeeklyAd?storeid=2278777#!/store/2278777/category/5202138 the $399 i5 system looks to be a decent deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screaming oranges Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 (edited) As for life expectancy of Windows 7, it would suck if it died soon given that a lot of financial corporations switched to Windows 7 after XP support dropped. No bank that I know of works with Windows 8. I'm sure there are exceptions somewhere... That said. I got used to Windows 8. And 8.1 Edited December 10, 2014 by screaming oranges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexicanDragon Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 I have Windows 8.1 on my laptop. I log in, Metro pops up, I hit the windows key or alt+tab, and I don't see metro again until I lock my machine or sign in again. I really don't get what the big deal is. **BRENT** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Lollers @ Windows apologists Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Enigma Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 I have Windows 8.1 on my laptop. I log in, Metro pops up, I hit the windows key or alt+tab, and I don't see metro again until I lock my machine or sign in again. I really don't get what the big deal is. **BRENT** You can add a few seconds to your life by doing the below and booting direclty to desktop. 1. After booting Windows 8.1 click the Desktop tile to enter Desktop mode. 2. Right-click any open area in the taskbar, then click Properties. 3. Click the Navigation tab, then check the box next to Go to the desktop instead of Start when I sign in. 4. Click OK, then reboot. Windows Classic Shell is also handy to get the normal start button back. http://www.classicshell.net/ Stardock is also a nice cheap app that expands the start menu and desktop functionality. http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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