[Chord Dave Any Good?]

I think it comes from 2 things. 

One being a fundamental misunderstanding of what tubes are and how they should be used. I blame this on a bunch of cheap tube amps designed to overtly emphasize negatives of tubes as positives. Then people assume this is what tubes should sound like.

Add to that that many high-end amps have had tubes in the design, when this group of people go to upgrade they want to spend more money because you know that means better stuff? And we end up in this situation. 

These are the same people who when they listen to a good tube amp come away remarking that it sounds like solid state.. Argh

[The Headcase Stax thread]

   I recommend getting a Badger, a Justin and a Spritzer locking them in a closet whichever comes out buy that amp. Badger = T8000

But there are a lot of impressions contrasting the BHSE and Carbon. It is down to your preferences, you will be happy with either decision.