s1rrah Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 I've been pondering this question... If electrostatic cans are mostly just a thin filament of material .. then how do various cans have different sound signatures? Is there a crossover circuit in the headphone? Why do my Koss 950's sound so much different than my Stax 307's? What is the variable that affects sound? Curious... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltron Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 If dynamic drivers just vibrate and push air, why do my KSC-75s sound so different from my K1000? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s1rrah Posted February 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Turtles. That's what I thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s1rrah Posted February 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 If dynamic drivers just vibrate and push air, why do my KSC-75s sound so different from my K1000? Turtles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wink Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Horse feathers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postjack Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Very small rocks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s1rrah Posted February 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Goddmanit. I was serious with that question there for a second... And horses don't have feathers, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadtonowhere08 Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Goddmanit. I was serious with that question there for a second... And horses don't have feathers, either. I don't care who you are, that is funny shit... even if you were serious. As to your question, you are not a big enough of a seasoned grumpy asshole to warrant a well thought out answer from the peanut gallery I'll take a shot, as I am not a pro by any means, but pretty much everything in the build changes the frequency response and many other sound affecting attributes. The enclosure, the driver material, the impedance, the magnets used, the tautness of the membrane, and the material and geometry of the cable (never underestimate its plankton retrieval importance) all affect the sound. I am sure that the engineers have all of this in mind even before the prototype is built. Kind of like building a car. Then, once the prototype is built, the final tweaks are made. Then and only then will Birgir and Kevin give their seal of approval, as any model released without a Mafia endorsement will surely end up an utter failure. Oh, and the cable bit was a bit of bullshite. Or, if I am way off... Turtles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s1rrah Posted February 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 I don't care who you are, that is funny shit... even if you were serious. As to your question, you are not a big enough of a seasoned grumpy asshole to warrant a well thought out answer from the peanut gallery I'll take a shot, as I am not a pro by any means, but pretty much everything in the build changes the frequency response and many other sound affecting attributes. The enclosure, the driver material, the impedance, the magnets used, the tautness of the membrane, and the material and geometry of the cable (never underestimate its plankton retrieval importance) all affect the sound. I am sure that the engineers have all of this in mind even before the prototype is built. Kind of like building a car. Then, once the prototype is built, the final tweaks are made. Then and only then will Birgir and Kevin give their seal of approval, as any model released without a Mafia endorsement will surely end up an utter failure. Oh, and the cable bit was a bit of bullshite. Or, if I am way off... Turtles. Of course I'm not serious. It's a computer form for chrissake. one would be clinically ill to vest any thing "serious" in it (other than fun dialogue, that is) But thanks for that comment ... your mention of materials used, other than just the driver, are interesting. The stats perplex me, though ... in a good way ... not only do they sound great, but they also pique my curiosity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 As to your question, you are not a big enough of a seasoned grumpy asshole to warrant a well thought out answer from the peanut gallery Hey hey hey! As a seasoned grumpy asshole who often doesn't get well thought-out answers to serious questions, I resemble that remark! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadtonowhere08 Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Hey hey hey! As a seasoned grumpy asshole who often doesn't get well thought-out answers to serious questions, I resemble that remark! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n3rdling Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 diaphragm thickness, coating used, spacer thickness, hole size and spacing, driver area, pad thickness, driver angle, stator thickness, open area percentage, grill design, dust cover material, stator rigidity, etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spritzer Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 That's basically it. Electrostatics only appear to be simple in theory but then again, most don't understand the theory. Take something like the Stax Lambda, almost all of them share the same housing, basic driver building blocks (stators and diaphragm assembly), cable and earpads yet they can sound very different from one another. Hell some use the same diaphragm material yet sound nothing like one another. I blame the turtles.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screaming oranges Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 (edited) I used to have a pet turtle when I was a child. It ran away one day. Yes, as odd as that sounds, it RAN AWAY. One morning it was gone and I never found it again. I was traumatized and never had pets since then. True story. At least I now find solace in that maybe, just maybe, it spent the rest of its days testing STAX headphones somewhere... EDIT: Its name was Gamera. I grew up watching Godzilla movies... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-UACM_8q_Q Edited February 4, 2014 by screaming oranges 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wink Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 (edited) You would be greatly informed on the subject if you got in touch with chinsettawong and/or went to that other nefarious portal of all things headphone and look in their DIY section on building your own electrostatic headphone thread. I saw a doco recently which featued the red faced turtle. Dusty Chalk, on 03 Feb 2014 - 3:10 PM, said: I represent that...! Edited February 4, 2014 by wink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wink Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 And horses don't have feathers, either. They're as rare as hens teeth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skullguise Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Alright, how the FUCK did I watch Creature Double Feature for YEARS and miss that awesome Gamera theme song?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 My thoughts, exactly! Gamera was my favourite, and for some reason, I never saw that before. Maybe it's because I only watched what was on broadcast television. But still! Also: Gamera might be the greatest name for a turtle, evar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wink Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Was Gamera the parent of the teenage mutant ninja turtles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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