blessingx Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 Anyone have any thoughts on this battle? Have the opportunity to pick up a Transporter discounted, but curious if others have compared? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomana Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 Anyone have any thoughts on this battle? Have the opportunity to pick up a Transporter discounted, but curious if others have compared? How much of a discount? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jp11801 Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 if you want to hear the transporter stop by, I'll have it another week or so and then it's off to a-gon to finance the new turntable. I'd go SB and a better dac over the transporter but that's just me. The tp sounds a little thin to me although it's got great detail it lacks body Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
granodemostasa Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 if you want to hear the transporter stop by, I'll have it another week or so and then it's off to a-gon to finance the new turntable. I'd go SB and a better dac over the transporter but that's just me. The tp sounds a little thin to me although it's got great detail it lacks body that's pretty much what I heard, slightly better than the DA10, but not something that justifies it's hype or price. personally the Stello MKII would be far more likable, same thing with a DP200 if you need a pre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blessingx Posted November 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 Discount would be $500. So it would basically be $1500 v. $1300 for the combo.... which I already have. If I sold the SB3/DA10, probably $400-500 to "upgrade". jp11801 thanks for the offer. Unfortunately, I leave on vacation Sunday so won't be around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philodox Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Just thought I would paste the communication I received here in case anyone else is interested in the information. RE: The new 'Truth' mods for the Transporter. Q - Do you put in your own clock, or use the stock one? The tubes look great, and I bet they sound nice as well. A - We keep the stock clock as it is already excellent and has a dedicated Jung Super Regulated supply already. Q - You said that the balanced output is from two transformers. Do they convert to balanced from an unbalanced output stage? A - Yes. Q - Any way to have a balanced output straight from the DAC? The 6CG7 is a great tube, I use it in my amplifier, the 6GU7 is another variant and is a slightly lower gain version. The RCA 6GU7 is the best tube I've found in this family and can be had for very low prices. A - Thanks for the tip RE 6GU7. The circuit type used is SE only. It is possible to run a dual-diff. circuit from the DAC, but the transformers also serve to reduce tube circuit gain by 4:1 and subsequently the noise floor. They also reduce the output impedance to a VERY friendly 110ohms, from the 600ohms otherwise from the tube circuit without OPT's. Thanks and I hope that this reply is still relevant at this late date. Interest is certainly increasing in this product and those that have it, REALLY are enjoying our modified unit. Take care, Dan W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slwiser Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 SB3 for ~280 plus the Lavry for ~ 925 is much less than a Transporter from what I have seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xand1x Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 I'm not too sure how the Lavry DA10 compares to the Stello DA220, but just to chime in I thought the Transporter was a better overall performer than the DA220. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkam Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 FYI looks like APL is now modding Transporters as well: http://aplhifi.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=688 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philodox Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Sounds cool, but single ended outputs only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkam Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Yeah thats a bit of a bummer but it's also probably why the cost is only $1200 for the mods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postjack Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Yeah thats a bit of a bummer but it's also probably why the cost is only $1200 for the mods. still looks cool, basically its just some brand new DACs in there. Must completely change the sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkam Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 If you read the thread it's bit more than that . 4 dacs per channel + new output stage and I guess maybe some power supply changes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Someone needs to crack open an airport express, and see if you can take the I2S signal from the board and feed a dac. Imagine combining a pico style dac section with an airport express. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
immtbiker Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 My transporter dac output is definitely a bunch of notches above, when compared to my ex-SB3>Ack dAck! 1.3 using a real good Stereovox coax digtal cable, but pales in comparison to the output of a DV-50 using CD and lossless, switching with matched volume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 Someone needs to crack open an airport express, and see if you can take the I2S signal from the board and feed a dac. Imagine combining a pico style dac section with an airport express. Are there analog outputs on the Airport express and also an optical output? Open one up and take pics edit: here's a pic how does this work, do you need USB plugged in, or will it work over wireless ethernet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shokunin Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 The airport express is wireless 802.11/b/g sync'd with iTunes. As an apple product it is tied to iTunes, so I doubt it will work with any other media player like Foobar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 The airport express is wireless 802.11/b/g sync'd with iTunes. As an apple product it is tied to iTunes, so I doubt it will work with any other media player like Foobar. google airtunes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shokunin Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 I had the lavry DA/10 and a stock transporter and thought the tranporter was better in terms of overall musicality. It was a stock SB3 w/ an Elpac PSU into the lavry with either a Stealth Varidig, VH Audio pulsar, or Dodson digital cables were used between the SB3 and the Lavry. The Lavry was a bit darker and slower than the transporter. I dunno, the digital out the squeezebox was disappointing for me. I don't think it was the Lavry per se, but rather how bad the digital output was on the stock SB3. The Lavry sounded better driven off the transporter but the squeezebox's digital out sounds slow and bloated. The transporter itself is rather mellow in my opinion, not very aggressive anywhere and a bit thin in the all so important midrange. I don't think it's really that bad as some bash it to be. Neither were in the EMM labs league that I had at the same time. My transporter is now at APL awaiting surgery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shokunin Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 google airtunes Stand corrected! I should have known someone would hack into it (like everything else Apple) to make it work with something other than crappy itunes. Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 Stand corrected! I should have known someone would hack into it (like everything else Apple) to make it work with something other than crappy itunes. Glenn Airfoil rather. But I'm a big fan of itunes anyway. I've tried most other music management suites, and I still always go back to itunes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
immtbiker Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 I have my transporter running digital Mogami XLR out into my Dac 6e and it is the shit. In hindsight, I should have stuck with the SB3 using a Cardas RCA>XLR converter and saved $1200. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shokunin Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 You'd need more than a cardas RCA to XLR adapter, you would have needed a special cable with a transformer to change the impedance from 75 ohms of SPDIF to 110ohms of AES/EBU. I wondered why Ed Meitner didn't put SPDIF inputs on the Dac6's. Have you tried word clocking on the Dac6e? With my DCC2 it actually sounded worse word-clocked from the transporter \, which is one of the reasons I bought the transporter (word clock input). Not only did sound worse, I'd get pops and clicks randomly, maybe it was trying to emulate vinyl .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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