Jump to content

The problem of Warwick Aperio


Recommended Posts

  • 1 month later...
On 6/12/2023 at 1:47 PM, AudioGD said:

Sonic wise, while it doesn't have the stage height of Hifiman Shang SR and maybe even the seperation of Stax X9000 driven by T2/ Grand Cayman with TOTL source, it does have the best low extension as well as the most normal shape of stage. While I feel TOTL AIO electrostactic systems as HE-1 and Aperio have better transducer and headphones (or most current after market electrostactic headphones are problematic here and there ), they might be limited by the geometery to accomodate the best amplification. 

I dont have the ability to actualy talk about your questions, but having had the chance to dac roll HE1 I can say for certain that HE1 is pretty significantly held back by its electronics. I would put the dac on a similar tier to bricasti M1SE (non-mdx) at best and I think a lot of the fairly poor (compared to other all out systems at least) depth separation is an electronics issue plain and simple. Honesty, I wouldnt be surprised if the aperio had a similar problem. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 6/17/2023 at 1:40 AM, spritzer said:

The drivers are just a further development of the HE90 so they can be easily converted to Stax standard.

Do we have a schematic for how exactly the HE1 is powered? TBH i've been curious if an after market amp would be able to be made for it for a while.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 1 month later...

The Bricasti, Metrum, as well as Totaldac while share similar tonalities as HE-1, yet doesn’t actually have the resolution, staging and especially the low extension as HE-1. 
 

While DACs with loaded bass as Mojo Mystique SE, and Wavedream that you mentioned do have that loaded and hard hitting bass, they are exaggerated, colored and fatiguing. Also In my direct ab shootout of PBD and Wavedream, which are both overly thick sounding DAC, the latter also sounds largely flat, missing depth and height, as 2D versus 3D. The magic of the HE-1 is that musical and well extended bass that is real to life with no artificial colorization from the loaded DACs.

This is not to say the built in DAC of HE-1 is perfect, the major flaw is speed whose caveats could be almost all fixed by streamers/ servers as Aurender N30, yet the win of technicalities is at the cost of musicalities and naturalism. The N30 won’t make the bass overly thick as many aforementioned R2R and/or FPGA DACs, yet it makes the bass less moving and enjoyable for long term listening.
 

There is a saying Mid Fi seeks technicalities, Summit Fi seeks tonalities. It is true that Wavedream does have superb resolution, which only maybe MSB reference and select could defeat, yet it is exaggerated and analytical.

if you move above the DACs at this price range and include a broader scope of high end sources including CD transports and turntables above 100K, 300k and beyond, it is never about which one has more resolution, technicalities or details, but about which one is more convincing, musical, and real to life, making you feel like being there musically while not missing any details.

 

 

IMG_4052.jpeg

IMG_4064.jpeg

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 hours ago, Dusty Chalk said:

Dagnabit, this is one of the only places left where I can still use the word, "cunt", without getting cancelled. Every place else, I have to use the unisex, "asshole".

Well here and Britain

Link to comment
Share on other sites

10 hours ago, Dusty Chalk said:

Dagnabit, this is one of the only places left where I can still use the word, "cunt", without getting cancelled. Every place else, I have to use the unisex, "asshole".

I can offer you a licensing agreement...

  • Haha 1
  • Angry 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 8/30/2023 at 7:57 PM, Dusty Chalk said:

Dagnabit, this is one of the only places left where I can still use the word, "cunt", without getting cancelled. Every place else, I have to use the unisex, "asshole".

whats wrong with asshole? :)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.