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Honestly I don't really understand why these women are taking these photos. I have never had a body like they do but even then I doubt I would unless I wanted to be a model but they are med students. If they are/were for significant others then I would make damn sure they were private not just to be posted anywhere by the photographer. You making a fundraising calendar or something?

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"These women" spend 8-13 hours each day in the hospital on rotations and, without fail, go to the gym/cross fit for 2 hours every day. They excel at academia and have well rounded lives. What's wrong with having aspirations for both becoming a physician, and a model? Why must we limit people into this box where they should only be doing one thing even if they are good at other things? Quite honestly it's an offensive statement to make. I know I will never be some great photographer but am I to stop taking pictures or sharing them publicly because I am in med school? And if there's a double standard for me being able to do it because I'm a guy and they not being able to do it because they are girls then it's doubly offensive. With the amount of hard work they put into looking the way they do, I am not surprised that they wanted boudoir style images - I didn't ask the reason as it is none of my business (did ask for permission before sharing them publicly). Their social media pages are full of images in work out clothes which cover basically the same % of their body if the clothing is a concern. As for the matter of context, they walked away happier and more confident of themselves ("no way I look like that!") so I certainly didn't mind shooting them in a room in a bed instead of at the gym. You'd be surprised that even women who look like that have insecurities about themselves for many reasons most of which have nothing to do with their bodies. If a shoot like this can get them over that mental block, I don't see any harm in it not that I see any harm in doing a boudoir shoot for no reason in particular. 

No fundraisers on my end. 2 friends asked me to take pictures. I obliged. Nothing more to it. 

John, we practiced blood pressures 2 years ago :) it's amazing how comfortable my classmates and people in general get around me once they realize I have a lovely girlfriend and absolutely no intentions do anything to jeopardize my relationship with her. 

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Fair enough as you say you can be both. Still not something that I would do but if they want to more power to them. Glad you were able to help them out.

I don't understand your air quotes, they are women and there are two of them. Should I have used "these two people". There was no generalization implied or otherwise.

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10 hours ago, crappyjones123 said:

"These women" spend 8-13 hours each day in the hospital on rotations and, without fail, go to the gym/cross fit for 2 hours every day. They excel at academia and have well rounded lives. What's wrong with having aspirations for both becoming a physician, and a model? Why must we limit people into this box where they should only be doing one thing even if they are good at other things? Quite honestly it's an offensive statement to make. I know I will never be some great photographer but am I to stop taking pictures or sharing them publicly because I am in med school? And if there's a double standard for me being able to do it because I'm a guy and they not being able to do it because they are girls then it's doubly offensive. With the amount of hard work they put into looking the way they do, I am not surprised that they wanted boudoir style images - I didn't ask the reason as it is none of my business (did ask for permission before sharing them publicly). Their social media pages are full of images in work out clothes which cover basically the same % of their body if the clothing is a concern. As for the matter of context, they walked away happier and more confident of themselves ("no way I look like that!") so I certainly didn't mind shooting them in a room in a bed instead of at the gym. You'd be surprised that even women who look like that have insecurities about themselves for many reasons most of which have nothing to do with their bodies. If a shoot like this can get them over that mental block, I don't see any harm in it not that I see any harm in doing a boudoir shoot for no reason in particular. 

No fundraisers on my end. 2 friends asked me to take pictures. I obliged. Nothing more to it. 

John, we practiced blood pressures 2 years ago :) it's amazing how comfortable my classmates and people in general get around me once they realize I have a lovely girlfriend and absolutely no intentions do anything to jeopardize my relationship with her. 

Typical Crappy bullshit.  You didn't say ANY of this shit in your titillating posts.  You just had pics with names or references to bio info about "these women."  Even when Antonio made a joke about how you were able to take these pervy boudoir photos you didn't explain it.  You just wanted to show off the fact that some hot women let you take girly pics of them.  

You didn't say they knew and approved of you posting their pics in a public forum.  You didn't say that they had aspirations of becoming models.  You didn't say anything to justify your holier than thou bullshit about Chris being offensive, which he wasn't.  It was perfectly understandable for Chris to think you were doing something stupid or obnoxious because you didn't offer any of this context or explain that the subjects knew you were showing images that are typically shared with a spouse or partner exclusively.  I normally just ignore you and didn't say what Chris did even though I thought the same thing, and worse.  

I can't wait for you to say you're not sure what you ever did to piss me off, but I guess you won't now...

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3 hours ago, Voltron said:

Typical Crappy bullshit.  You didn't say ANY of this shit in your titillating posts.  You just had pics with names or references to bio info about "these women." 

Except for the fact that all my posts are made the same way - I include the name of person or location and if anyone asks a question or expresses interest then I offer more information. I didn't know that I needed to treat this particular one differently. 

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Even when Antonio made a joke about how you were able to take these pervy boudoir photos you didn't explain it.  

I didn't do anything wrong so I didn't think I needed to explain myself. I knew Antonio was joking so I joked back. As far as the photos being pervy, I guess it depends on which side of the line you are standing on. I find them to be tastefully done (which the models enthusiastically agreed with) and would suggest that you might be the one with the prudish outlook here. 

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You just wanted to show off the fact that some hot women let you take girly pics of them.  

I guess I have been showing off for a while now as I have been posting pictures of hot women for a bit. Perhaps you and John should switch jobs. You seem to be pretty good at knowing what other people's motivations for their actions are. Perhaps not, as you are wrong in this instance. 

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You didn't say they knew and approved of you posting their pics in a public forum.

There are other images that I didn't share because I didn't have explicit permission to post them. Perhaps you should consider the notion that maybe I keep getting opportunities to shoot these hot women is because I respect their wishes as to which images to keep private and which ones I have permission to share? Whatever is shared here goes on my 500px page as well which they get links to so that they may share the images as well. Maybe I keep getting chances like these because I don't do shady shit that you are insinuating. 

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You didn't say that they had aspirations of becoming models.  

I never did in the past either - why wasn't it an issue then? Only difference I can tell between my posts in the past was that I didn't mention that the models were fellow students. Seems to make sense to me as Chris never objected to me posting pictures of half naked women prior. "I have never had a body like they do but even then I doubt I would unless I wanted to be a model but they are med students."

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You didn't say anything to justify your holier than thou bullshit about Chris being offensive, which he wasn't. 

I still beg to differ. 

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It was perfectly understandable for Chris to think you were doing something stupid or obnoxious because you didn't offer any of this context or explain that the subjects knew you were showing images that are typically shared with a spouse or partner exclusively.  

See above about subjects knowing what I was sharing. 

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I normally just ignore you and didn't say what Chris did even though I thought the same thing, and worse.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2YK7pADmWU

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When CJ posted the half naked women pictures, I was less than pleased but decided not to say anything as I didn't want to make a fuss and be viewed as a prude.  I do think that it would have been good to put spoiler tags on them.  Since others have said something I thought I should mention some of my thoughts.  

I am not sure why it matters that they are med students/residents/doctors whatever.  Putting up these type of pictures is demeaning to women in my mind and I found them offensive.   It is no different than if they were strippers.  They are essentially the picture equivalent of soft porn. 

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Oh please. The double standard here is so blatantly obvious it is absurd. The slower forum thread is of full of images of actually naked women and not once has Dan or anyone else, to my knowledge, been asked to use spoiler tags to hide pictures of naked women. Please don't insult me by saying that that is the appropriate forum for it - if posting pictures like these is demeaning to women, then it is demeaning in all parts of this website. I realize it is easy to pile on to someone when they are already getting dumped on - that takes no courage as the mob provides it and while you are entitled to your opinions, please don't ask me to censor myself to suit your sensibilities. Last I checked it was a free country and I am a legal US citizen. I would understand if I were posting something universally inappropriate like a video of a murder or something but the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show is on national tv tonight. Millions of people will be watching. It's time to evolve your thinking to beyond the middle ages. 

If you don't like the content, feel free to not look. If you find my content in particular to be offensive, feel free to ignore my posts, as Al does - I don't mind. Calling essentially anyone who models in lingerie strippers or doing the picture equivalent of soft core porn is not just offensive and a puritanical way of thinking but point blank stupid. I come from one of the most sexually oppressed and backward societies in the world and even I didn't treat my colleagues as though they were strippers. The fact that any normal adult would think that is mind numbing. 

Why not chastise those who enjoyed looking at the images while you are at it? Surely, consumption of soft core porn and looking at strippers is equally bad as being a stripper or creating soft core porn to the prudish mind. I'll wait for your post scolding tall man, John, Ari, and Antonio. 

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