spritzer Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Practically all circuits already exist at this point, the trick with any amp manufacturer is to put your own flavor on it (without violating intellectual property rights, of course). Which is what I thought everyone -- including Mikhail -- does. That is very true most of the time and there is nothing wrong with using a preexisting design and do your own spin on it by adding a nice PSU and CCS or something like that. Claiming it was all patent pending and world best just adds insult to injury. That DAC is just an epic and I'm certain that it cost him a lot less then 50$ if he bought a few in one go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Is it possible it could be an OEM type thing, like the ICE amps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_maher Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Is it possible it could be an OEM type thing, like the ICE amps? Sure, it's possible. There are countless cases of one company rebranding another's tech for use in their own product. Of course no one but Mikhail knows whether or not Xitel knows what is going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin gilmore Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 At least it's the fast approach to adding a DAC. That and using all the remote control switching and attenuator products from Liteaudio of china, changing the led's to blue and then saying its completely custom. Its actually fun to try and get into a designers head and figure out how they come up with stuff. Clearly stuff from john curl, nelson pass, james bongiono, dan d'agostino, charles hanson... all have very distinctive and different, and immediately noticable design philosophy's. When i try to get into mikhail's head all i see is re-runs of "yellow submarine" and a lot of this stuff C20 H25 N3 O ((6aR,9R)-N,N-diethyl-7-methyl-4,6,6a,7,8,9-hexahydroindolo-[4,3-fg]quinoline-9-carboxamide) And to be fair, when i try and get into ray's head, all i see is the vast vacuum of space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkam Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 I have figured out where mikhail got his output stage from and i have notified that person. Care to share any proof? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin gilmore Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Well bryston for one. But that is not what i'm referring to... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beefy Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 I have figured out where mikhail got his output stage from and i have notified that person. Oh, snap. How has he got away with this shit for so long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blubliss Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Uh oh, i hope i don't get my amps repo'd by the HC design police (caribinieri). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzziguy Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Or invade Elbonia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blubliss Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 don't worry, the HC design police would use American style police action and simply shoot your neightbor to death during a para-military raid on the wrong house. Good thing i gave my RSA XP-7 to my neighbor. That should keep the design patrol off my trail for awhile. But seeing the utter genius for sniffing out the worst in everything, they might still find me. Maybe I can fool them by letting them actually listen to one of the products they despise so much. Knowing the public safety/caribinieri mind though, this concept may be too confusing for the rationally obsessed know-it-all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadhead Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Well Mikhail has also created 8 channels from 4: MINI-REVIEW of Single Power Square Wave XL Balanced (vs Melos SHA Gold and Zana Deux) - Page 2 - Head-Fi: Covering Headphones, Earphones and Portable Audio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin gilmore Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 where is my shovel. I need to bury something. So my understanding is that a "push" is an amplifier, and a "pull" is another amplifier and for balanced you have a total of 8. New math, gotta love it. Then the standard square wave is a 4 channel amp?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepak Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Oh lord :palm: I wonder if 6moons has any job openings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadhead Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 I just can't believe people get away with this crap!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopstretch Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 I just can't believe people get away with this crap!!!!!!!! Stockholm Syndrome? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naamanf Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Well Mikhail has also created 8 channels from 4: MINI-REVIEW of Single Power Square Wave XL Balanced (vs Melos SHA Gold and Zana Deux) - Page 2 - Head-Fi: Covering Headphones, Earphones and Portable Audio Thanks for that. I feel dumber now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadhead Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Thanks for that. I feel dumber now. Glad I could help... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asr Posted August 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Someone needs to point out the glaring misinformation in HeadphoneAddict's posts, both of them. (Not me.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostonetr Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Heh. Seems like many others out there, under the same logic, could have "8 channel" amps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaloS Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 I think somehow the headphones that particular person is addicted to have intelligence-degrading effects. Either that or he snorts every hour...but then nah because I am aware of some members here with such intakes who maintained more braincells than I have after a month with the Ultrasones. Wasn't he the second biggest Edition 9 proponent after Sovkiller? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostonetr Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 No clue. He seems like a nice enough guy though. I kind of shy away/skim/skip over ultrasone threads/posts, so don't know who's really supporting em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Heh. Seems like many others out there, under the same logic, could have "8 channel" amps. If I am interpreting this correctly then the GS-X is an 8 channel amp, so is balanced b22 and dynamite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopstretch Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 If I am interpreting this correctly then the GS-X is an 8 channel amp Quick, raise your prices! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin gilmore Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 But wait, there is more. Each individual output transistor is its own amplifier. So a balanced dynafet would be a 32 channel amp. But wait there is even more. A krell master reference monoblock as as stereo pair would be a 240 channel amplifier. The crap flowing from mikhail's mouth is just plain stupid. Like his steadfast insistence that the cathode resistor on the extreme is not really a resistor but rather a current sink. Same thing with the plate resistor on the ES1. Nope, its not a resistor, but rather a current source. Both sure look like resistors to me... Even ray has finally shut up about his $200 an inch military wire... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CD44hi Posted August 19, 2008 Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 I wanted to read the stuff you are talking about the 8-channel configuration in that thread, but I can't find it..... Am I looking in the wrong place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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