Dreadhead Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 We want but me have no use for it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aardvark baguette Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 That is all that is hooked up now. Cool. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postjack Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 So it sounds like its not bright and horrible, and relatively inexpensive to boot. But deepak's post about DSD confuses me: does this player do DSD over the analog outs or ONLY over HDMI? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aardvark baguette Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 I think it only does 2 channel over analog, I think thats the analog limitation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 I'm not sure why deepak's post confused you. It seemed completely devoid of content. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin gilmore Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 Total of 12 dac's in the thing. 4 for balanced dsd. 4 for balanced pcm. 2 for unbalanced dsd. 2 for unbalanced pcm. DSD (2 channel) on both analog outputs and hdmi DSD (5.1 channel) only on hdmi outputs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aardvark baguette Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 Sony XA5400ES Mods Anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postjack Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 Total of 12 dac's in the thing. 4 for balanced dsd. 4 for balanced pcm. 2 for unbalanced dsd. 2 for unbalanced pcm. DSD (2 channel) on both analog outputs and hdmi DSD (5.1 channel) only on hdmi outputs wonderful, thank you kevin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torpedo Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 Thanks for the comment Kevin. It'd be great knowing your opinion about its sound over the analogue outputs, either SE or balanced, which is the only use I'd give to it. BTW, does it need to be plugged into a TV screen to decide if you want it to play the SACD or CD layer in a disc, or choosing your preferred DSD output? This is important, I wouldn't have it connected into the TV, so not having to tell the thing to read the 2ch SACD layer every time would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purk Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 I really love mine. Don't know what to say other than that. Better than the krell sacd standard. 2 channel balanced output. hdmi output. Don't know about the super expensive sony piece other than it does NOT have hdmi. Does not even have balanced. More of sony's unplugged fly by wire approach to management. KG, Do you like the sound of the 2 CH output more than that of the SCD-1? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penger Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 i'll be ordering one and the lowest price is $1050 w/ free shipping Unfortunately the Krell SACD Standard I bought has too many problems - unreliable in detecting SACD layers on the first, second, or third try - digital filter select buttons do not work - can't go to previous tracks (back button will only restart current track) - annoying high freq noise in standby mode I'm going to try to get it fixed but my expectations are very low Bleh, I remember going to a stereo shop and playing around with the Krell. The tray and the buttons felt kinda cheap for the price. Not sure how their newest iteration is. They were supposed to have fixed issues with the transport. Where did you find the sony for $1050? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aardvark baguette Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 SONY SCD-XA5400ES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penger Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 That beats the price I found by $5, but there are no recent reviews of "Palm Beach Digital" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morphsci Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 In 2009 no digital input = FAIL. I will not be auditioning any one box units that do not have at least one digital input. If I'm paying for a great DAC I want to be able to use it for other transports (and yes I am talking about the PCM DACs). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepak Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 I'm not sure why deepak's post confused you. It seemed completely devoid of content. Yes it was. As I understood Dusty's comment- it only did DSD through the HDMI output. Which isn't the case And yes I don't know why I got the idea they were converting to PCM for the analog outs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fungi Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 In 2009 no digital input = FAIL. I will not be auditioning any one box units that do not have at least one digital input. If I'm paying for a great DAC I want to be able to use it for other transports (and yes I am talking about the PCM DACs). Could one possibly mod it to include such? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin gilmore Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 You might want to wait till the sucessor of the 9es proc/preamp comes out. It will be balanced out, and use those new dac chips. Of course it will come with lots of other stuff you don't probably want, but that is going to be the future like it or not. There is the new sacd portable coming out in the next few months. I doubt it is going to have a digital input. There would be no reason to do so. scd1 << krell sacd standard < 5400 ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penger Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 Could one possibly mod it to include such? Ask Dan Wright? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morphsci Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 Could one possibly mod it to include such? I do not know about this specific model but if I recall correctly, APL used to have a digital input option on the 3910 mod. However, I think they pretty much ripped a good chunk of the original electronics out and replaced them anyway. Anyway, I'm sure it is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postjack Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 I do not know about this specific model but if I recall correctly, APL used to have a digital input option on the 3910 mod. However, I think they pretty much ripped a good chunk of the original electronics out and replaced them anyway. Anyway, I'm sure it is possible. Yeah, I think they were able to do the digital input because they were using all new DACs in their units. I once asked Matt Anker at sacdmods.com about the possibility of doing a digital input on the 3910, and he said it would just be way way to difficult for him to consider. So its probably pretty tough if not impossible to get an input into a unit's native DAC. For a while now I've wanted an SACD player with a digital input in the $1000-1500 price range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin gilmore Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 I know that it is completely counter-intuitive, but if you want a dac that has the same parts as the 5400 in it (and the same exact sound qualities) then you have to buy the str-da6400es receiver, and use just a very small part of it. Soon there will be a preamp/processor that is the same as the 6400 without the power amps inside. So many of the single box very expensive sacd players have el-crapo mech's that it makes sense to buy something cheap that sounds great, and when it breaks you throw it out and get a new piece of mechanics. The D/A lives on. The new oppo blu-ray play everything machine for $500 is one really good example. The only reason you would want an input to a player would be to hook up some kind of computer based device. For $.25 or less burn a RW and use that instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 You can't burn YouTube to a RW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aardvark baguette Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 The only reason you would want an input to a player would be to hook up some kind of computer based device. For $.25 or less burn a RW and use that instead. Thats probably what I will do, its just that I think alot of the twenty-somethings here at HC are used to computer-based playback, and disc-only based playback is such a fundamentally abstract concept in some ways. I wouldn't call it a deal breaker, especially at the price, and when you consider the prices Emm Labs charges for their special DACs & algorithms and whatnot. I'd still call it a no-brainer, I think. I'm trying to think of a reason not to get two of these, to use one in the office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin gilmore Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 I expect that you will see the sony parts show up in the emm labs stuff sooner or later at silly pricing. I'll continue to use the krell for 5.1 audio output till an appropriate proc/preamp comes along. Then i'll get another sony. I figure for upstairs the perfect personal system is a 5400es and a bhse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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