n_maher Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 I'm not a lawyer, I just play one on the internet! I always found it just a bit shady that you had to buy a special dock (regardless of who made it) in order to use the later-gen Imods. It just struck me as a) slightly dangerous since from the outside there's no real way to tell if you're looking at an Imod or not and the added cost was not insignificant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pars Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 One other thing to keep in mind with these things is that pots don't like DC on them (particularly the conductive plastic ones such as Alps, TKD, etc.) So even if you're preamp has coupling caps in it, make sure they happen before the signal hits the pot if you are thinking about using a straight LOD and cable with an iMod. In my Counterpoint tube pre, that is not the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFF Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 The problem isn't the connectors, it's the force exterted by bending cables that thick. They try and straighten out, putting pressure on the inside of the jack. I see. See...you always learn something new. Maybe it's the new stuff as the dock I have is flexible and has caused no damage at all. I wonder if he is using new materials and if that may be the cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penger Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 I'm also wondering if the people who's jacks are breaking are/are not molding the cables like Ken suggests (or do they already come in the 'U' shape?). I think there is a video on his website showing how that's done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltron Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 My iMod dock came in a U shape and has caused me no problems with multiple amps used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 I'm also wondering if the people who's jacks are breaking are/are not molding the cables like Ken suggests (or do they already come in the 'U' shape?). I think there is a video on his website showing how that's done. It would be better if they came with right-angle plugs, but that probably wouldn't sound as good because the electrons would be forced to make a hard turn so they'd have to slow down from the speed of light Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopstretch Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 It would be better if they came with right-angle plugs, but that probably wouldn't sound as good because the electrons would be forced to make a hard turn so they'd have to slow down from the speed of light I smell a business opportunity for Platinum ArcJacks. We make them out of cocaine and orgasms, which is a time-consuming -- though not particularly meticulous -- process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_maher Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 I smell a business opportunity for Platinum ArcJacks. We make them out of cocaine and orgasms, which is a time-consuming -- though not particularly meticulous -- process. You have just taken the first step towards joining the NAG audio collective, congratulations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omendelovitz Posted October 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 It would be better if they came with right-angle plugs, but that probably wouldn't sound as good because the electrons would be forced to make a hard turn so they'd have to slow down from the speed of light um...Justin, actually, electrons only travel @ about 10% the speed of light - which is why Ken used 18AWG cryologically treated Oxygen free 24K gold large gauge non-stranded wire soldered with 99.999999999999% silver. Only such a high quality connector can handle the 90 degree turn. After all, the signal impedance imposed by a RA plug is much greater, relatively speaking. ALO's optical cables, in contrast, can warp around 90 degree turns unbuffered. As it turns out in the end, Ken used the straight Canare plugs as he found it helped relieve the signal bottleneck caused by the narrowing on RA plug openings... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omendelovitz Posted October 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 depends on the medium. some wiring and circuits are capable of substantially faster speeds than that. i can go through the math with you, if you pay me. not that it matters, for actual performance. and he was joking. Ed, so was I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omendelovitz Posted October 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 hmmm... I figured the way I ranted in Dr.Arthurwellian inanity kind of gave it away. Note to self: use more emoticons in future... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penger Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 It would be better if they came with right-angle plugs, but that probably wouldn't sound as good because the electrons would be forced to make a hard turn so they'd have to slow down from the speed of light They definitely don't like right turns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPH Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Looks like Justin isn't the only one to have a problem with ALO cables: Posted here by Ray Samuels: Combining this little amp with any NANO Video with a good mini dock cable & lossless files make this little gem one of the greatest companion when traveling. Please stay away from the very heavy SOLID adaptors that convert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunhill Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Looks like Justin isn't the only one to have a problem with ALO cables: Posted here by Ray Samuels: also, looks like Ray owns and uses an ALO cable. continue reading to the next page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltron Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 also, looks like Ray owns and uses an ALO cable. continue reading to the next page. Ray has had ALO cables and docks for a long time. I remember him extolling their virtues in Florida the first time I went there (whenever the hell that was!). Is that relevant to anything, though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunhill Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Ray has had ALO cables and docks for a long time. I remember him extolling their virtues in Florida the first time I went there (whenever the hell that was!). Is that relevant to anything, though? no, I just thought GPH was implying that RSA was having issues with ALO cables, and was pointing out that this isn't the case if he actually owns and praises them... probably my misread (again) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPH Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 also, looks like Ray owns and uses an ALO cable. continue reading to the next page. The one Ray is using doesn't look too bad, it seems more flexible than some of the other ALO "designs". I've never used an ALO dock or cable though, so I could be wrong. I just thought Ray was referring to ALO in particular because there are not many companies that I know of that make extravagant docks like them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 If all of the LODs used right angle plugs, it could solve the problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pars Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 I would think the biggest problem would be having 6 strands or so of 18ga wire (Jena, whatever ) going to a 30ga pin in a dock. That's just fucking stupid, or as Roam said over there: The stupid, it burns!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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