Eric5676 Posted June 9, 2009 Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 The pricing on Windows 7 upgrade is attractive but I'd rather keep Vista than do an MS upgrade. I'll probably just spend the extra and get the full version. I probably will, too, eventually. Hasn't it been proven pretty much in the past that if you want less headaches you are better off doing a fresh install from the ground up vs "upgrading" from one OS to the next? My perception of Windows 7 is that it is basically Vista SP3 for all intents and purposes. Am I right or wrong in that perception? I've been pretty happy with Vista 64 post SP1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strid3r Posted June 9, 2009 Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 Hasn't it been proven pretty much in the past that if you want less headaches you are better off doing a fresh install from the ground up vs "upgrading" from one OS to the next? My perception of Windows 7 is that it is basically Vista SP3 for all intents and purposes. Am I right or wrong in that perception? Yep, doing a fresh install is always the better route to go. I don't know if I would call it Vista SP3, because there are enough changes and (minor) differences that make it feel like its own OS. I have used Vista on and off, but I'll definitely be moving over to 7 when it comes out as it feels pretty solid and compatibility does not seem to be an issue (hardware and software). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riceboy Posted June 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 i've never ever heard of that. when you upgrade you can either have it do what you'd think and upgrade your xp to vista/7 or do a clean install Yup. When XP was still being sold and Vista was going to come out, the retailers would send you the upgrade disc to Vista and you could upgrade to Vista or do a clean install. There was a leaked memo from Best Buy that hit the tech news sites on Monday that mentioned they would start to offer free upgrades to any computer that was sold from June 26th to the Windows 7 release day on 10.22.09. Not sure if the memo that was leaked was official, but eventually they will offer free upgrades if you purchase a Vista or probably even downgraded Windows XP Pro to Windows 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkon Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 you should be able to do a full install from the upgrade.... Does it force you to put in the XP/Vista CD to verify? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E Woven Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 What you do is you install a version lesser than the one you purchased; for example, if you purchased ultimate upgrade, then install basic or premium or professional. Don't enter a cd-key while installing this lesser version. Once it's installed, open Computer, right click the cd-drive, and select Explore. Run Setup, and then upgrade it to the version you actually bought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cankin Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 What you do is you install a version lesser than the one you purchased; for example, if you purchased ultimate upgrade, then install basic or premium or professional. Don't enter a cd-key while installing this lesser version. Once it's installed, open Computer, right click the cd-drive, and select Explore. Run Setup, and then upgrade it to the version you actually bought. Is this clean install? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkon Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 I think he's talking about edition upgrades, not OS upgrades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger945 Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Can't wait. I'm going SSD once I get 7. It's been a while since I've spec'd a SSD. Definitely the way to go for me if the read/write speeds hve improved in the last yr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aardvark baguette Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 ^^ Now they have PCI based ones, albeit super expensive, that eliminate the sata bottleneck. I think in the next year or so, we'll see more and more of those, in sizes small enough to not cost as much as the 1tb ones. Theres already a "fatal1ty' one thats a good deal smaller, and presumably cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSlacker Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 I have been using RC1 for a few days already on my main machine. Did a clean install from XP.. never had Vista so everything is new to me. Love the eye candy. Seems to be running pretty damn well so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aardvark baguette Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Supposedly the side dock apps can be a memory leak, so consider turning them off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSlacker Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 not a big deal if you have 6GB of RAM hehehehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopstretch Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Screw that. Once I go fully 64-bit, I'm installing 16 terabytes of RAM just because I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ingwe Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 not a big deal if you have 6GB of RAM hehehehe Incorrect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_maher Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Screw that. Once I go fully 64-bit, I'm installing 16 terabytes of RAM just because I can. Too bad you'll be searching for software to run. I still can't load AutoCAD on my V64 laptop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkon Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 I'm running 64-bit Autocad LT 2009 no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_maher Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 I'm running 64-bit Autocad LT 2009 no problem. I'm on 2007/2008. I also love the different system requirements for the various versions. For 32-bit AutoCAD LT 2010 # 1 GB RAM # 850 MB free disk space for installation For 64-bit AutoCAD LT 2010 # 2 GB RAM # 1 GB free space for installation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopstretch Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Too bad you'll be searching for software to run. I still can't load AutoCAD on my V64 laptop. Oh, I wouldn't run any actual programs, just benchmarks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aardvark baguette Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 someone needs to combine ramdisk with itunes album art. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepak Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 The lucky folks in Europe get Windows 7 without Internet Explorer 8 bundled. Windows 7 to be shipped in Europe without Internet Explorer - Ars Technica If only Americans could be so lucky :'( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkam Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 IE8 really isn't that bad. Plus it's pretty easy to just not use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 I'd rather not have it there if I'm not going to use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aardvark baguette Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Plus it's pretty easy to just not use it. Thats where I excel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigiPete Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 I'd rather not have it there if I'm not going to use it. Well it would get pretty expensive if MS had to make hundreds of custom versions for all the stuff that people don't want to use... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 It's called "bloat", and Microsoft -- because they are the biggest company -- needs to be particularly sensitive to it, because the more code is there, the more there is to exploit, and IE8, in particular, is particularly prone to being exploited. Yes, that's right, even if you don't use it. PS I use linux. So don't yell at me for being a hypocrite, 'cuz I ain't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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