blessingx Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Anyone hearing pops/clicks as JJ mentioned? Also this is probably old news to many here, but I just found it out. Though some continue... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunhill Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Wouldn't it be alright to stick a buffer and a bandwidth-appropriate amplifier in there? well, remember this will be digital, not analog connections (think I2S). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morphsci Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Definitely hardwire. I wouldn't run the lines more than 6 inches, without a line driver circuit. The real question is how much room is there in the case for a few power supplies and what not. Have you dug up all the threads that reference this from DiyA and HF? If so, I'd like a short list of them to read over. well, remember this will be digital, not analog connections (think I2S). Hmm, not to sure about that. It is digital data but it would not really be an I2S connection as it is the DSD data that is being tapped into from the Denon not PCM based data. Unfortunately all my notes and such are back in IL so I will not have access to them until late next week. Im pretty sure Russ' ghetto connection using alligator clips was quite a bit longer than 6 inches, but then again I am male. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 It's still a form of digital.well, remember this will be digital, not analog connections (think I2S).Yeah, that's why I wrote "...bandwidth-appropriate...". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morphsci Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 It's still a form of digital...". True but the length limitation on transmitting data via I2S may not be relevant here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunhill Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 True but the length limitation on transmitting data via I2S may not be relevant here. 6" is a rather standard recommendation for I2S. There is a line driver circuit by Elso Kwak around if you want to go longer, but IMHO it just invites many issues I don't want to deal with. Now as you said, whether this is relevant, I don't know, but seems like a sane place to start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morphsci Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 6" is a rather standard recommendation for I2S. There is a line driver circuit by Elso Kwak around if you want to go longer, but IMHO it just invites many issues I don't want to deal with. Now as you said, whether this is relevant, I don't know, but seems like a sane place to start. My point was that this is not an I2S interface issue as I2S carries PCM not DSD (PDM) data, thus the length limitations of I2S are not relevant to this connection. Only 90% sure on this so I'm certainly willing to be proven (not browbeaten) wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunhill Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 My point was that this is not an I2S interface issue as I2S carries PCM not DSD (PDM) data, thus the length limitations of I2S are not relevant to this connection. Only 90% sure on this so I'm certainly willing to be proven (not browbeaten) wrong. I understand, I just don't have the equipment to convince myself one way or the other (and trust few people's word on the subject), so I figured as short as possible and definitely less than 6" will be what I shoot for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morphsci Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 I understand, I just don't have the equipment to convince myself one way or the other (and trust few people's word on the subject), so I figured as short as possible and definitely less than 6" will be what I shoot for. OK, healthy scepticism is what differentiates HC and HF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postjack Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 got all my discs in today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 My point was that this is not an I2S interface issue as I2S carries PCM not DSD (PDM) data, thus the length limitations of I2S are not relevant to this connection. Only 90% sure on this so I'm certainly willing to be proven (not browbeaten) wrong.Well, no, it's still digital, in that it's binary data. The point of I2S is to separate out the word clock, and there's still the concept of clocking with DSD, so I2S could easily be modified to carry DSD data, but it'd otherwise be the same, and have the same limitations. However, luvdunhill's other issues of not wanting to complicate matters with a buffer and/or amp are, of course, more limiting. And I doubt I'd get around to it first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunhill Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 my SACD's arrived... I got an extra one too, but it's a duplicate of one they already sent me :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepak Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 my SACD's arrived... I got an extra one too, but it's a duplicate of one they already sent me :/ Just curious what SACD player you're using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunhill Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Just curious what SACD player you're using? Muse Model 9 Signaure. Wait... crap. I'm half tempted to buy one of the upper end models that will also play SACD... but haven't found a good deal on one and have to free up lots of cash to afford one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blessingx Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 OK, healthy scepticism is what differentiates HC and HF. That and the level of sexiness over here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riceboy Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 my SACD's arrived... I got an extra one too, but it's a duplicate of one they already sent me :/ Funny. That happened to me as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postjack Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 That and the level of sexiness over here. x2 all these sacds make me want a hi-Rez player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBLoudG20 Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 x2 all these sacds make me want a hi-Rez player. I'm in your Denon, spinnin your discs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augsburger Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Received my order today, no email or shipment notice otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riceboy Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 the Cary 306 is pretty nice. Yup. It is very nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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