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9 hours ago, kevin gilmore said:

that has to at least double the capacitance of the cable. probably more because the bias wire is no longer shielding the stator wires.

stupid fucks.

Makes one wonder what is inside the Shangri-La and the Mr. Speakers Voce cables... 

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A quick cheapskate question..

Would a theoretical cheapskate with a 3030 system (in which the 303s have fresh pads and sound OK) notice any real benefit from grabbing a pair of L300, or would it be a pointless sidegrade?

I can't find any reliable detailed writeups of the L300, just the usual HF nonsense.

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They are more different than an upgrade.  It really does depend which version of the 303's you have though as Stax tinkered with them at some point in the production. 

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1 hour ago, spritzer said:

They are more different than an upgrade.  It really does depend which version of the 303's you have though as Stax tinkered with them at some point in the production. 

That sounds quite close to sidegrade for most purposes, at least- thanks.

Out of interest, what was the tinkering, and the effect?

(The 303s came with crumbling foam centres which I replaced with the current production equivalents- which are a sort of fabric mesh.)

 

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They changed the voicing of the drivers or even just the glue for the drivers.  Hard to say but SR-404's can sound very different from one another and they are all but identical to the 303's. 

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They are great and so are the 207's.  404LE's are also excellent. 

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8 hours ago, spritzer said:

They are great and so are the 207's.  404LE's are also excellent. 

Ah, this is why daft questions are almost inevitable- there are many variants, and arcane knowledge needed to navigate them.

I A/Bed the 303 with some 404 signatures (yay, another variant), and the differences weren't huge- mostly in the quantity of mid-bass (when the 303s had just arrived, and still had knackered pads). That was a hurried listen, in non-ideal conditions using a WM1A as a source, but still..

Anyway, noted, thank you!

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5 hours ago, keithpgdrb said:

The airbow sc1 is like the 404le as well yes?

Yes and no.  The drivers are probably the same but the earpads do make a difference.  Both are nice though. 

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2 hours ago, spritzer said:

Yes and no.  The drivers are probably the same but the earpads do make a difference.  Both are nice though. 

How are they different?

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20 hours ago, wink said:

Get the 202's

I´m very happy with my SR202. I think that they are equilibrate than my SR307.

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12 hours ago, keithpgdrb said:

How are they different?

The 404LE's are leather and the older shape used on the prototype Lambdas.  The 404 uses the same fake leather stuff as the LNS back in the day and the same shape as all the Lambdas used. 

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So Stax just unveiled their 80th anniversary products, a special limited L300 and a black and gold SRM-353X...  Pretty underwhelming but hey, at least it is something.  The L300 is limited to 800 units. 

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Interesting!

So, (what at least looks like) the L700 drivers in a L300 housing, and at half the price of the L700 (on japanese sites)...

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L700 driver for half the price, and only a couple of bucks over a silver unit (60 €) for a black 353X. At least they're not in stupidly inflating prices like the T8000 release, or other brands recent habits...

Ali

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It's ported. 

From what Stax have posted they don't use the L700 drivers, just the stators and it looks like normal L300 pads as well.  Now whether this is good or not...we'll see. 

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80th anniversary?  Meh...!

I guess we'll have to wait until the 100th anniversary for anything significant...........  :ph34r:

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3 hours ago, spritzer said:

It's ported. 

From what Stax have posted they don't use the L700 drivers, just the stators and it looks like normal L300 pads as well.  Now whether this is good or not...we'll see. 

Perhaps you can get a pair, tear it apart and improve upon it. I'd buy it off you in a jiffy :) 

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