dcpoor Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 any jh13/16 owners get a chance to try the UE reference monitors? just wondering how they compare to the JHA offerings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Did any of you guys hear the big new Sony speakers? I have seen one report that says they blew away the Magico Q5s and most everything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadphoneAddict Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 I will have more to say later. The Rethm amp with the LCD-2's was about as good as headphone listening gets. I was talking about with Aman George about the amp and kept telling him that I don't want to get sucked into headphones again. However, at the price they are looking to sell that amp it is a bargain. For $2,000 you will have one hell of a headphone rig with the LCD-2. I thought it sounded good, but I was not as impressed with it as others. I felt it was much better than the prototype hybrid amp, but it seemed to lack in transparency to me. I'd likely pick my Woo WA6 over the Rethm amp. However, I was very impressed with the Rethm speakers upstairs, as were a few others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jp11801 Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Did any of you guys hear the big new Sony speakers? I have seen one report that says they blew away the Magico Q5s and most everything else. Curious if they were good and what they were playing with. Sadly no I passed by the room twice and nver made it in, this is why we need you at the show any jh13/16 owners get a chance to try the UE reference monitors? just wondering how they compare to the JHA offerings. Yes they are very good but different in overall presentation than any of the UE or JH products. Very transparent and neutral and maybe more spacious than the JH13s even. They lacked slightly in the bass region but were very good. I still prefer the 13s but I could see them as a nice change of pace. I thought it sounded good, but I was not as impressed with it as others. I felt it was much better than the prototype hybrid amp, but it seemed to lack in transparency to me. I'd likely pick my Woo WA6 over the Rethm amp. However, I was very impressed with the Rethm speakers upstairs, as were a few others. you and Dusty are just plain wrong please go to your rooms and rethink your answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asr Posted October 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Wow I ended up deleting more than half my pics last night for one reason or another. 101 left, and some more will be deleted too but not too many. I'm guessing I'll have the pics ready to post in about 2-3 days along with gear/show impressions. Btw, could a moderator move this entire thread to the Meet Impressions forum now that the event's over? Oh and before I forget, this was being advertised at the show: HDTracks 20% off discount code "rmaf20" (one-time use per HDTracks account, expires 10/30). Axpona 2011 (Atlanta GA, April 14-17) was also being advertised in a big way and I heard that a bunch of new vendors signed up for it, so that should be a good show next year. any jh13/16 owners get a chance to try the UE reference monitors? just wondering how they compare to the JHA offerings. Did not try those, but I could (and would) have if I'd brought my MP3 player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augsburger Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Did any of you guys hear the big new Sony speakers? I have seen one report that says they blew away the Magico Q5s and most everything else. Curious if they were good and what they were playing with. I would like to demo the Sonys sometime because I have found the Magico M5s to be very very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadphoneAddict Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Yes they are very good but different in overall presentation than any of the UE or JH products. Very transparent and neutral and maybe more spacious than the JH13s even. They lacked slightly in the bass region but were very good. I still prefer the 13s but I could see them as a nice change of pace. I agree with your UE In-Ear Reference Monitor impressions. I get a similar neutral/spacious feeling with my ES5 except the Westone have more bass than the UE demos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 (edited) you and Dusty are just plain wrong please go to your rooms and rethink your answer Hey, I did allow for the possibility of magic... EDIT: And I didn't think of this until later, but source might also have been an issue. Edited October 21, 2010 by Dusty Chalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepak Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 (edited) Any links to RMAF coverage by websites? I am only seeing enjoythemusic's up right now. Mostly interested in pretty pictures edit: I see Steve Dobbins had a room setup, any of you analog fellows get to hear his Garrard? Truly a wonderful TT IMO. Edited October 21, 2010 by deepak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironbut Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 The Audio Circles forum has some excellent coverage of the show. Of course these are member pictures and impressions so the impressions should be taken with a grain of salt (other members generally know the preferences of the folks writing the impressions so their mental filters are running accordingly). The stickied ",.. Member ,.. Show Coverage has tons of excellent pictures. Rocky Mountain Audio Fest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M3NTAL Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 I'd be interested in hearing more about the UE-Reference / ES-5 / JH-13. I've only had a chance to hear the JH-13 and JH-16 universals and thought both had a little too much bass around 50hz for the large amount of electronic music I listen to. The UM3X and no.34 customs have made me wary of dealing with Westone again, but I've never had bad service, so they aren't completely off the list yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepak Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 The Audio Circles forum has some excellent coverage of the show. Of course these are member pictures and impressions so the impressions should be taken with a grain of salt (other members generally know the preferences of the folks writing the impressions so their mental filters are running accordingly). The stickied ",.. Member ,.. Show Coverage has tons of excellent pictures. Rocky Mountain Audio Fest Cool, thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asr Posted October 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Any links to RMAF coverage by websites? I am only seeing enjoythemusic's up right now. Mostly interested in pretty pictures Stereophile just had a lot of updates to their blog this morning: Stereophile: Rocky Mountain Audiofest 2010 Dagogo: http://www.dagogo.com/View-Event.asp?hEvent=32 Stereomojo: Rocky Mountain Audio Fest 2010 pt1 Still working on my pics btw, going to be at least 2 more days. Downside to taking a lot of pics is the amount of time spent post-processing them - and inevitably annotating them (not really looking forward to that part). I'd be interested in hearing more about the UE-Reference / ES-5 / JH-13. I've only had a chance to hear the JH-13 and JH-16 universals and thought both had a little too much bass around 50hz for the large amount of electronic music I listen to. The UM3X and no.34 customs have made me wary of dealing with Westone again, but I've never had bad service, so they aren't completely off the list yet. Um even if someone did hear all 3 of those, I don't think you're going to get anything useful out of quick impressions in a show environment and from universal-fit versions. And if I were you I wouldn't bother with more than one custom IEM, especially at the prices that the ES5 and UE-R fetch for. Though I've heard the ES5 universals before they didn't totally blow me away and I wasn't really compelled to buy them in addition to my JH13 (and I didn't even pay for my JH13 either). If you were that interested in either the UE-R or the ES5, you should have traveled out to RMAF to hear them for yourself. I don't know of the next opportunity when UE and Westone will be at a meet/show simultaneously, next year's RMAF aside. (CanJam '11 is still up in the air last I heard, and I talked directly to Jude about it.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaox2 Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 I've been reading about Nordost's newest claim of measuring the difference in time domain errors in relation to aftermarket tweaks effects on sound released at RMAF. http://www.nordost.com/downloads/New%20Approaches%20To%20Audio%20Measurement.pdf Would be nice if their graphs were actually of a quality to read the scale and such. Anyone hear anything about this there? I know its a sore topic, but AFAIK the measurements don't prove that ears care about a time domain difference either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 It's probably an attempt to assuage the "immeasurable" argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinocelt Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 Um even if someone did hear all 3 of those, I don't think you're going to get anything useful out of quick impressions in a show environment and from universal-fit versions. And if I were you I wouldn't bother with more than one custom IEM, especially at the prices that the ES5 and UE-R fetch for. Though I've heard the ES5 universals before they didn't totally blow me away and I wasn't really compelled to buy them in addition to my JH13 (and I didn't even pay for my JH13 either). If you were that interested in either the UE-R or the ES5, you should have traveled out to RMAF to hear them for yourself. I don't know of the next opportunity when UE and Westone will be at a meet/show simultaneously, next year's RMAF aside. (CanJam '11 is still up in the air last I heard, and I talked directly to Jude about it.) Traveling can be just as expensive as buying a pair of high-end custom monitors -- or more, for those who, like me, don't even live in the States. I also have my eyes (but not my ears, alas) on the ES5 and the IERM. At least, HeadphoneAddict will be able to compare the ES5 and the JH13, though we already know his favorite. Aside from the sound, I'm also curious as to the difference in comfort and isolation between soft silicone and Westone's clever vinyl tips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunhill Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 At least, HeadphoneAddict will be able to compare the ES5 and the JH13, though we already know his favorite I didn't realize HPA's reputation preceded himself so! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 Playback report (1st of 4, so far) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltron Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 Playback report (1st of 4, so far) All four parts are available Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 Yeah, I meant 4 parts, so far...didn't read it, so don't know whether or not he's done... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asr Posted October 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 Pics for HC first. Pics for HF will follow later over there. (Dinner @ Great Northern Tavern) Left to right: Marc Lavry, Jude, Drew, Steve (forgot from which company) (Dinner @ Great Northern Tavern) Left to right: Fang, NewGuy, HPA's son, HPA, Tyler's wife, Tyler, Peter, Aman Drinking @ Falling Rock Tap House Signage namesake burger @ Larkburger JP w/ an IPA @ Larkburger Late Sunday, looks like folks are tired Lamb shanks ordered @ Sahara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironbut Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 Nice pic's Steve. The lamb shanks look yummy! BTW, isn't that Dan Lavry on the right in the first pic (the fellow you think is named Steve)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asr Posted October 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 Uh not sure, not really good with names and my memory is hazy on that. Maybe someone else could confirm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinocelt Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 I didn't realize HPA's reputation preceded himself so! His reviews are the best available. I really wish the big players sent him review samples, instead of sending them to editors who, very often, just drop five short paragraphs about it on their website. Above all when four paragraphs out of five just tell people what a custom IEM is, and the last one how great the one they were sent is (without comparing it to any other). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvlgato Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 Nice pics, Steve! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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