Dusty Chalk Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 I'm trying to think -- I don't think I've heard a worse amp than the Raptor. (Mints don't count, because they're not commercially available.) Am I forgetting something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 Gilmore Lite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin gilmore Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philodox Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 Hmmm... I'm pretty sure that was a joke, but I've never been blown away by the Gilmore Lite. I've heard Dynalo's that were great, but that one never grabbed me. As for the Raptor, it is actually not bad with high impedance headphones. Given the price though and the design flaws... I wouldn't touch it with someone else's dick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin gilmore Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 The whole thing is a joke. If you do replace 2 resistors in the raptor it sounds quite good with hd600/hd650's as you would expect out of the simplest of SRPP designs. For anything 150 ohms or less however it stinks. At least it does not start on fire anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSloth Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 Hands down winner, the Simpl A1 iPod Amp! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron_Dreamer Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 The worst I've heard is the Little Dot II, followed by the Perreaux SXH1. Both were simply awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sacd lover Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 I think my signature addresses my thoughts on the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerius Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 I don't know, I've managed to completely repress the memory of the worst amp I've ever heard. But the Hornet sucked ass, my 15 year old Discman sounds better than that piece of crap, and it only cost me $20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrice Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 The first CMOY I ever built.....it made a god aweful hissing noise all the time. That and the Simpl A1 amp previously mentioned. But there have been some other dissapointments along the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister X Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 PA2v2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pabbi1 Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 Creek OBH-11 - a loud, crude beast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sacd lover Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 Creek OBH-11 - a loud, crude beast. That would have been my former pick .... but then I heard the hornet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob_McBob Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 but but but, that amp gets recommended on head-fi a lot! how could it possibly be bad?! Is it really that bad for the price and intended use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister X Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 but but but, that amp gets recommended on head-fi a lot! how could it possibly be bad?! Good question..... because most portable sources actually output more power then that amp does. Maybe it's the whole "OMG teh base is so much mo betta with this amp" thing? Assuming of course that you like warm sloppy bass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted October 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 As for the Raptor, it is actually not bad with high impedance headphones.I distinctly remember being underwhelmed -- it was completely lite on the bass. And it wasn't even detailed -- you know how people believe this myth that bass and detailed are mutually exclusive? It had this fake high frequency sheen, but no detail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiberian Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 hornet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysanthemum Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Well, # 1 would be the Raptor as I heard it at a meet. Then the (my mind went blank) two tube part solid state hybred thing everybody is building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sacd lover Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 the Millett Hybrid? i agree with you there, though i haven't heard anything other than a basic build with mediocre tubes. i also haven't liked any of the PPAs i've heard. That Millet was bad. I still didnt think the raptor sounded that bad. The sound wasnt great but it was listenable. The hornet is abrasive and fatiguing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hirsch Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 I'll happily play my Shure SA-1 for anyone who thinks that they've heard a bad headphone amp. Just as long as I don't have to listen to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
granodemostasa Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Either the RSA B52 or the Gilmore light (sorry justin). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepak Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 PA2v2. That is one hella shitty amp alright. The only "amp" that made the ipod headphone out sound better than it did. It's sad to see he has around 7000 sales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Yes, hard to believe a $60 amp doesn't outperform a dynamight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sacd lover Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Either the RSA B52 or the Gilmore light (sorry justin). You think the B52 sounded bad? I have seen a few posts where the posters were diplomatic but still said the amp didnt impress them. But then you immediately see a "certain group" jump in and declare the amp a world beater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin gilmore Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 What do you expect when you take 2 amplifiers with an output impedance that is already too high and put them in series? Something that can't even drive hd600's... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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