Voltron Posted August 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 If he doesn't play that tonight, I might have to stab him in the eye! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 Well if he becomes Matthew Sweet the pirate, I'm going to blame you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torpedo Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 11 hours ago, Dusty Chalk said: Allan Holdsworth, The Man Who Changed Guitar Forever, the album collection. I like jazz. XD I was just posting elsewhere about how I had no idea how good he was while he was in Marillyn Manson until I found out he had a signature tele, and went looking. Allan Holdsworth owned one of the hand made by my teacher guitars. He seemed to like a lot small body ones with funny shapes, and great sounding. I've listened to a couple of albums on YT, is the whole collection worth it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Torpedo said: Allan Holdsworth owned one of the hand made by my teacher guitars. He seemed to like a lot small body ones with funny shapes, and great sounding. I've listened to a couple of albums on YT, is the whole collection worth it? It's 12 albums so give me some time to get through it all, and that's just the first time -- I actually got it from HDTracks during the last sale. If you're unfamiliar with his music in general, the best word to describe it is "modern". It's very fusion-y, with lots of esoteric chord progressions and synth guitar. Also: that's cool! Who's you're teacher, if I may ask? It's not Bill DeLap, is it? His signature Carvin is one of those headless ones, and he was also famous for playing Steinbergers, which were also headless. So yeah, you got that right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torpedo Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 His name is Al (Alberto) Martín, but he has no website nor social network profile. He's not this Alberto Martín. Al's the luthier behind the aluminum Pamito Guitars design, woodwork (neck, fretboard), pick ups, ensembling and adjustments. I have one of their aluminum Telecaster models, I posted pics elsewhere. Look at the all wood models, they have some similarities in finish and sound to his own guitars, but he has plenty of smaller body designs, even shorter scale lengths, and small head. He got in touch with Allan through another musician/guitarist/producer who came to live in Spain in the 80's or late 70's, but I can't recall his name. Al is a more than decent guitarist, I mean not at virtuoso level technically IMO, but very knowledgeable at theory level. He recommended me to listen to Holdsworth works to learn how he handled harmonic concepts and how original were his melodic lines. My "problem" with such music is that it's rather atonal, not easy to follow melodically, but amazing for its different perspectives. I'm listening now to Metal Fatigue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 31 minutes ago, Torpedo said: His name is Al (Alberto) Martín, but he has no website nor social network profile. He's not this Alberto Martín. Al's the luthier behind the aluminum Pamito Guitars design, woodwork (neck, fretboard), pick ups, ensembling and adjustments. I have one of their aluminum Telecaster models, I posted pics elsewhere. Look at the all wood models, they have some similarities in finish and sound to his own guitars, but he has plenty of smaller body designs, even shorter scale lengths, and small head. He got in touch with Allan through another musician/guitarist/producer who came to live in Spain in the 80's or late 70's, but I can't recall his name. Al is a more than decent guitarist, I mean not at virtuoso level technically IMO, but very knowledgeable at theory level. He recommended me to listen to Holdsworth works to learn how he handled harmonic concepts and how original were his melodic lines. My "problem" with such music is that it's rather atonal, not easy to follow melodically, but amazing for its different perspectives. I'm listening now to Metal Fatigue Being unfamiliar with the vocabulary, myself, it is a little harder to get into, emotionally, at first, but as I scrutinize it enough to figure out what he's doing, it gets a little easier and fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torpedo Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 That's my teacher's point, if you get familiar with the unpredictable places where the musician is taking you to, you start to be in a position to get more involved emotionally and to really enjoy this "weird" stuff. Funnily enough I found this video at Youtube (that guy's channel is interesting for those of us learning) which is somewhat related to this matter The weirder, richer and unpredictable is the stuff you're listening to, the more trained to find out intervals and harmonies our brains will be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swt61 Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 (edited) 9 hours ago, Voltron said: If he doesn't play that tonight, I might have to stab him in the eye! I'm wearing glasses to Michigan. Edited August 19, 2017 by swt61 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltron Posted August 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 OK, OK, stop with the images and I won't say it again! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 Steven Wilson, To the Bone RIYL the poppier side of prog, the proggier side of pop (Tears for Fears, XTC, etc.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeymad Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 listening to Tubes.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swt61 Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 How do they sound while lying on the floor? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jose Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 1 hour ago, swt61 said: How do they sound while lying on the floor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitz Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 8 hours ago, swt61 said: How do they sound while lying on the floor? A bit flat. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TMoney Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 Seems appropriate for an ass-early drive down to Salem, OR to go witness certain celestial phenomena. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMoney Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 In a goth kind of mood. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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recstar24 Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 Nils Frahm - spaces (VMP) I don't really do the ambient/electronic thing but this guy is really good. Beautiful piano playing but the way he breaks up classics form electronically is impressive. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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johnwmclean Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 On 23/08/2017 at 7:31 PM, Dusty Chalk said: Please do tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 It's...different. Worth a listen. I think you can stream it from the link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dusty Chalk Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 On 8/19/2017 at 9:00 AM, Dusty Chalk said: Being unfamiliar with the vocabulary, myself, it is a little harder to get into, emotionally, at first, but as I scrutinize it enough to figure out what he's doing, it gets a little easier and fun. I just got to the cover of Norwegian Wood, and it's very instructive. It's like a switch flipped. Everything after that is making...well, alright, maybe not total sense, but more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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