Voltron Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Did you normalize for the age of that post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postjack Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Have y'all tried flats? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 WTF, dude, that's actually the appropriate response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postjack Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 WTF, dude, that's actually the appropriate response. Shit, you're right. I guess I should read the posts first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 it's like watching turtles fuck. Â They're doing it right, but holy hell it takes a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emooze Posted June 11, 2014 Report Share Posted June 11, 2014 And it's quite disturbing. I mean, have you ever SEEN a turtle penis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Sneis Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 While we're at it a short PSA -- it seems JG has gotten quite shady in his business practices as he ages so buyer beware if you happen to decide you want to throw money at him. Â What I've read is enough to scare the shit out of me to eternally kid gloves now my stocker HP-2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 That's quite a vague but inflammatory charge, where's your corroborating information? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadtonowhere08 Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Sneis Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 http://www.head-fi.org/t/622756/joseph-grado-signature-product-hp2i-upgraded-hp-1000-headphone-information-journal-and-comparative-review-on-hiatus  There's a link at the top of the post which directs you to the beginning of tamahome77's saga.  He is/was not alone it seems and he has since received the pair back from JG but at much higher cost than originally quoted.  As a result he's having to sell them to recoup what he can.  I genuinely wish it weren't so but it's quite unnerving to read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 ok, well, caveat emptor anyway, as always. Â He's come across as a snake oil peddler ever since he returned to the headphone business a few years ago. Â 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadtonowhere08 Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 If true... yeesh. Â Pretty damning. Â When I first heard Joe was reconditioning the HP series a few years ago, I was struck by the stupidly high prices he was charging. Â Since they are already fantastic phones, what did people really expect out of them? Â Why mess with a good (and just about impossible to replace) thing - even if it is by the man himself? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CD44hi Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 I have to say that if that is true, it is pretty sad ending to his headphone manufacturing career. Whether he is senile and is being manipulated, is a possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiWire Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 What a pity. His microphone project sounded interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 It sounded self indulgent and unlikely to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherwood Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 Agreed, Dan. He is past the point of senility, and long past the point of having good enough hearing to be trusted. He was a titan in this business, to be sure, but that time has passed. Currently, his work preys upon the worst tendencies of "audiophiles" -- what if it could sound better with some magic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikongod Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 Currently, his work preys upon the worst tendencies of "audiophiles" -- what if it could sound better with some magic?  This is something I have seen in many kinds of expensive hobbies.  I get the impression that lots of people could not spend enough money on a (insert desirable thing to spend lots of money on) so they send it off *IMMEDIATELY* after receiving it to get it upgraded or fix a problem they once heard one guy might have had.  Cameras, Cars, Audio, Bikes, you name it.  It is kind of disgusting with vintage gear. At best it dries up repair parts for people who actually wear their shit out. At worst it just makes your own gear worthless, or your guru disappears with your gear.  PS: Totally guilty and hypocritical for what I did to my Melos. Just saying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recstar24 Posted June 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 I might have been one of the last few to actually get the upgrade within reason and still be able to interact with him when he was still coherent. Even though he did snap at me one time. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purk Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 Agreed, Dan. He is past the point of senility, and long past the point of having good enough hearing to be trusted. He was a titan in this business, to be sure, but that time has passed. Currently, his work preys upon the worst tendencies of "audiophiles" -- what if it could sound better with some magic? True but I don't understand the need of preying upon people for money at his age. Â I mean he is way past his retirement after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvlgato Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 Because he needs money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 Because someone is telling him he could make a fortune? Â Maybe as he saw John make money, he got bitter that his name and hard work turned into money for someone else but never for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherwood Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 I know there's a lot of animosity toward John, perhaps because Grado's best headphones were Joe's, not John's, but I think it deserves to be mentioned that running a profitable headphone business out of the U.S. that has no style whatsoever is not easy. Â I don't know how John does it, but he does. Â Also, my RS-1s are fantastic, and that's John's doing. Â Bears mentioning, even if this is not the John Grado thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 I was suggesting Joe might feel resentment, not that I have a problem with John. I like the HF1s and HF2s more than any of Joe's cans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherwood Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 I was suggesting Joe might feel resentment, not that I have a problem with John. I like the HF1s and HF2s more than any of Joe's cans. Â You're right, Joe probably would. Â Crazy old coot. Â Who yells at Ryan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recstar24 Posted June 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 You're right, Joe probably would. Crazy old coot. Who yells at Ryan? Yeah! There was guy Martin Mckenzie who was kind of his go to guy who you would talk to and he would help you keep joe on track. Joe found out I was talking to him and scolded me for trying to go around him. However i did get my cans the next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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