lucey

Thanks for your input, but again, WTF? Are you talking to yourself? It seems so as it makes no sense to me. I don't know anything about mediocrity in listening. I have no training or rep other than my skills, as I'm self taught and not in a major market ... and yet I win work from the most known in my field every week, so my listening is just fine thanks. I stopped fretting about confirmation bias a long time ago. My goal now is to spend less time A/Bing and more time enjoying life, as I trust my hearing more than ever. I came here to save time and am wasting it, I'm afraid. Perhaps I should have been more basic in my post. IMPLIED QUESTION FROM FIRST POST WAS: Did the people who dislike the GS 1000s give them 300 or 400 hours? Same question to the PS users. The GS sounded broken for a long time, so I'd get it if the haters gave up.

Thank you very much. What were your (the consensus) impressions of the GS and the PS? To me the GS is scooped, but other than that it's resolute and does the job. What are some of the favorite headphones around here. I'm not shopping but interested in your opinions.

You actually have the "problem". On the one hand, I have people who happily pay for my listening skills, in particular my very fine A/B listening skills ... 1/4 db here, 1/2 db there ... and on the other you're here trying to convince yourself and others that I have some deficiencies in critical listening. The GS1000s may not be the best or the worst, but mine changed dramatically over time, that's a fact. They were chocked and sound like a nice phone now. Were I to buy phones again, I'm not sure I'd bother with them. But they do they job very nicely, now opened up. Don't know him ... seems to be a designer. So you "trust" a guy that makes a driver that needs no break in to tell you that speaker break in is what? Overrated? I'll trust my ears and the designers of drivers that do break in! But mostly my ears. Head Case .... correctly titled forum. Getting more entertaining now, however. This may be the largest ratio of forum-cranks-to-helpful human beings on the internet.

Thanks. I was there a while ago for a short time, and it was fine. I don't care that much for headphones, sorry. Just finishing off the day here. On this forum I see a lot of people who lead with a fist, then listen/read. That's not boding well for the quality of info here. If you can't read a post accurately, and many can't, what good is your listening? Details are details. I'd like to think the outspoken are insightful. But maybe they're just cranky. If this forum is worth the noise ratio .... how so?

More insults and assumptions! I didn't listen to them but for a minute at the 100, 200 and then 400 hr. point. I assumed/hoped they would get better, and they did. And they do get the job done. Hello? No "logic fail". A dynamic driver needs break in, it's not unusual, but it was nasty for a long time. I don't know many headphones, but at least in large speakers, a driver that does not need break in is likely lacking in dynamics.

Again, I'm not a mixing engineer. And mixing on headphones is really not a good idea. For the price of the HP-2 and the 650s you're half way to a good enough monitor.

Now you're onto suggestions as to what I should be using? Christ. Those are too painful, too fake to even listen to anymore. They don't work for me at all. Can't stand them even to check a pop or click. I have many pairs from my days of recording and mixing sitting in a box. And they lack the resolution of the GS/have more distortion, which hide a very subtle pop.

"Recording Engineer as well" ... um ... I'm not a recording, or a mixing engineer. And your name is what? Are you still employed in recording? Why not exactly? "Sound like shit" ... is all very subjective and is not something a recording engineer would say about any tool. A 57 or a U47 ... nether sounds like shit on the right source. As compared to Sony's these "sound" very good to me, or as compared to the 701 or other phones I was trying. What business is it of yours anyway? Use what you want. Stax, fine. Never heard them, don't need to. I was asking about the break in on the PS vs the GS. A simple post about Grado and break in. I was amazed how these changed and thought that might make a nice conversation. And like I said very clearly, the GS are a tool for a VERY SPECIFIC purpose. I'm not posting to defend the phone as "good" only as "resolute" which is impossible to dismiss by anyone who is being serious. Is this the normal level of listening and quality of posting that goes on here? Your forum came up first on Google for GS vs PS so I signed up. Damn, my mistake ...

I only posted a couple of credits to show that I know how to listen. I regularly win work from the $500/hr crowd, I'm not deaf. The GS1000s are used 1% of the time I work, only to hear pops and clicks. They are resolute and have plenty of top, so they work just fine thanks. So I'm wondering what you've done that's sold over 1M records? I'm posting my name ... who are you? And I'm wondering why you all would assume that I "like" these phones more than others ... I don't. They're a tool. If I were listening to music on them I'd probably keep searching but I'm too busy being paid to work to A/B phones all day or even listen for enjoyment. Why insult someone new as being unable to have an intention that makes sense for this phone? I tried K701, 600s, 650s and then paid $600 for these. Job well done. Next fucking topic please? No one has heard the PS is that correct? Thanks for one answer in 12 quips!

So ... this forum hates my $600 phones, and assumes that professionals are deaf. Got it!

I'm working on a pop record that will sell 2-4 million and I have a cool record (The Black Keys 'Brothers') in the Billboard top 10 this week ... I really don't have time for insults or this juvenile shit. Still no answer to my two questions ... what a forum this is! Clearly you're more about the personal than the headphones. It's not about thick or thin skin, it's about signal to noise. I don't give a shit about your opinion on my phones, I don't even love them, and I'm not audiophile hater, nor an engineer hater ... I asked a couple of fucking questions. How do I sign off for good? Moderator please ...

Since no one has answered my post about break in times and differences between the GS and PS, and everyone seems to think this homoerotic personal shit is par ... I'll just bow out. Enjoy yourselves.

I'm a professional mastering engineer, so 'brainwashing' myself into hearing things is not something I can allow myself to do very often. My take on them is they're resolute and offer good depth and details for the rare moments I want a headphone to check distortion, they are nothing more or less. Anyone else have something to offer the new guy that's not an asshole's quip?

My first set of phones over $200 was the GS-1000s and they sounded like shite until 200 hours, better at 300 and at around 400+ hours they became very nice. I can see how someone might not like the frequency balance, but it's definitely a quality presentation. How many of the negative GS 1000 comments were on phones with 300-400 hours? What's the PS sound as compared to the GS?