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payment sent, thanks a lot for your work ?
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paid, thanks
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i had the same as you, couldn't get over 300mv, then i tried 620ohm - even lower bias. so i tried the other direction ;-). sip socket makes that a lot easier, i solderd them in after the desolder of the 500 ohm resistors.
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i used some sip sockets for the 500 ohm resistors near the 10k pot, makes the change easy. the value of the 500 ohm resistor depends on the vf voltage of the leds you are using, i ended up with some 374 ohm resistors for 620 mv bias (due the relative small case).
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paid, thanks
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do you made a balanced ksa5 with two boards? some pictures would be nice :-)
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go for the ksa5 with a golden reference power supply, not to tricky to build and no heat monster. read the two threads for the ksa5 and the grlv and match the parts for the amp (cheap transistor tester do the work quite well).
if you want some action, some brrrzzzz and puff go for something high power, high heat, high voltage. i'm shure you would then increase your desolder skills, a good thing but advanced projects are often also a money pit :-(
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Definitely interested.
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RIP Johnny Hallyday
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thanks kevin, learned something new :-)
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hi jose
i think if you want to adjuste the voltage via rv2/rv1 you don't need the resistors in r7/r8 , r9/r10.
maybe someone can correct me if i'm wrong, i think either via r7/r8 , r9/r10 or via rv2/rv1, not both.
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9 hours ago, penmarker said:
How does it compare with the metal transformer can?
I'm planning to complete the build first and assess the level of interference. If required I'll add in the shielding.
to shield the trafo enough in your build you need some metal that can shield magnetic fields quit good (mu-metal or grain oriented metal).
i used also this transformator can (when the trafo is not so near sensitive transistors) but i would rate the magnetic shielding the badest. would rate:
mu-metal 100%
grain orientad metal 80-90%
normal metal (this can) 30-40%due mu-metal is horrible expensive the best way is to go for the grain oriented metal option.
i used this transformator can and grain oriented metal bands in one of my ksa5 builds (bad placed trafo in my first ksa5 (the red one)), looks nice and shield effect in combination is as good as mu-metal. so you can first test the noise with this can and later ad some grain oriented metal bands if needed.
the noiseest part of the trafo is the side where the cables go in and out, place this part away from the transistors (in your build to the front side). also very effectiv is to turn the trafo up 90 degree (stand up), the magnetic field expands more like a frisbee (then a sphere) around the trafo.
the first time putting a grain oriented metal band over the trafo and the hum goes away is magic :-).
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good to hear that you amps is working again jose.
i had also 1 noisy out of 6 that340 from mouser, would be nice to test some single jfets or have them as alternatives.
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thats not all, you can choose every stone you want and bring them a sample. then they decide if the stone don't effect the sound quality. they made one he-1 out of jade for a chinese customer. so noble sirs and ladies, it's now time for some creativity and a short call to your banker. of course they are open for your ideas (other knobs?), the conversation i had with my conciergie was nice, friendly and sometimes out of this world ;-). they made a real special services arount the he-1, was a nice experience.
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12 hours ago, spritzer said:
It was my pleasure. I did have a lot of fun with it and would want nothing more than to get just the headphones to play with.
that's exact my feeling with the he-1. i had 2 1/2 h nice hours with the system but wasn't overly impressed, could get more time because no other appointments this afternoon but was fine for me. was a nice afternoon because the system was 1 week in zurich, 15 minutes walk from home at a store i know the owner since 20 years, could do with the system what i want.
sounded nice, detailed and smooth with a little tubby touch. i would buy the headphone allone asap but due the closed system it's nothing for me. and i don't like the idea of moving parts (rising tubes), looks nice but it's also durable?... as whole system i like my sr-009 or sr-007 tuned via a avalon ad2055 and out of my bhse better. it's a nice "to-go" system for audiophile high-net-worth individuals. service around this product is top, nice responsive concierge service. i uploaded the brochure i get from them up to dropbox, have fun with it:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/74tewziqkroheao/HE1_Imagebroschüre_570759_0716_Customization_EN (003).pdf?dl=0 -
On 16.10.2017 at 12:32 PM, jose said:
Yesterday I was listening to my amp and I noticed a small sound coming from both channels, it's not constant and it's not perceived while listening music. It's a sound like "fried".
I was listening SE input and SE output and I don't bridge the cold input to ground.
I have been taking some measurements and BIAS is symmetric on both sides; 750/760 mVolt on R channel and 720/735 mVolt on L channel. On the contrary, offset drift a lot and I've never been able to keep it on 0 volt. It's always between -100~40 mVolt and 120~60 mVolt (without servo). With servo, the offset never exceed 20 mVolt.
It has always seemed to me that Mosfets run too hot for an on-board assembly (Mosfet reach 90°) although I know that the maximum temperature is 150° but even so, components and the PCB also get very hot.
I'm not sure where to start since I've changed the THAT and OPAs too and I still have the same noise.
Can Mosfet be damaged? Or can the problem be elsewhere?
Thankshi jose
do you have onboard heatsinks? i think the right bias for the onboard heatsink is around 0.375v but always only as much the amp get in a stable state (heatsink rise max 25 c over ambient or at cold places 30 c after 1 1/2 - 2 hours). if you only test the amp for 1/2 hour the amp can run away later and as the temps rise the bias get faster higher to a point the parts can fail/get damage. its a even bigger problem if the transistors are not well matched, the unbalance get fast out of a stable state, the fun and tricky part of a lot of nelson pass amp designs.
i had some similar effects with a amp, some mosfet get to much current/heat but not failed completely, they made some strange chirr crackling noises (allways, sometime louder). was tricky because they measured fine whitout high current. what kind of noise do you hear? more static noise (as pink noise), hum or chirr/crackling noises? i think "fried" sounds like damaged but operational parts.
static noise is often because high gain and not so good matched parts. hum noise often fron grounding (wiring) problems (both channels same hum) or magnetic inducted noise from the transformator (the channel near the trafos hums louder then the other or only one channel has hum).
hope helps a bit.
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yes the orientation is fine of the opa445 and i also tested 2 seperate opa445 i had at hand. what puzzels me is that the vf of the one led drops 0.1v when the opa is in, is this a part of the servo function? after my first troubels i changed both leds to the LTL-307ELC, the vf is a tad lower then the clear led i used but easy to correct to the target bias changeing the 500 ohm resistor (now use a 357 ohm for bias around .575v). both led types dim with the opa in (on both boards). i also changed the that340 to 2 others, the result is the same with the servos. but im happy, the amps is running at the moment an with the lid closed the offset on both channels are stable at under 2mv (with opa the offset multipies by factor 20). god that i machted 80 mje's and 100 pzta's, the amps sounds perfect and is noise free. maybe someone with the same board in the future has a better understanding than i have
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thanks will do that next weekend. sometimes its good to run in some troubels, then the learning curve is the highest ?. great to have this forum and the help of you and the members.
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thanks a lot mr gilmore, you allready answered my next question. whitout opa (i used the opa445) i have a stable offset +- 3mv around zero after a half hour, at start 20mv fast dropping the first minute to under 10mv, that's fine for me. so i will use it whitout the opa. thanks a lot for you help - it's a sexy design the dynahi. strange is that both boards have the same problem with the opa in - the offset hovers slowly to over 0.3v around zero in both direction, a bit scary with this amp. out of interest, is it possible that the servos correct the offset to much when the parts are very well matched and the offset is stable going down to near zero? other class a power amps i made have a more agil bias swing then the dynahi.
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thanks mr gilmore, great tip. betweeen pin 4/7 it's 60 volt isn't that to much for the opa (should be 15v when i watch the diagrams), between 2/3 ~20 volt. the older version had some 7915/7815 are they obsolet?
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my dynahi has a problem, i tested the offset after some hours. i can bring down the offset to around +- 2 mv, i matched all transistors. the vf of the two leds whitout the opa is 1.75v. the problem is now when i put in the opa445 in the led on the side of the opa dims and the vf drops to 1.64v, resulting in a offset drift +-80 mv . this is the amp https://www.head-fi.org/gallery/photo/kevin-gilmore-dynahi.1871812/?regular=1 . would be great if anyone could point me to some additional measurements of have tips to solve this. took great care with soldering and measured any resistors twice, don't think it's a bad solderding or missplaced resistor. any feedback helps :-)
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You finde the parts here:
It's a band thats wraps around the trafo (secured via cable tie) and a top plate, most of the time the band is enough, but i want to be on the secure side with the top cover. Works great and its cheaper then mu metall cans.
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Finished my Dynahi this week, a big thanks to Kevin Gilmore making this project possible. Was a more or less ;-) troublefree build, thanks to this forum i get the needed information, thanks to all. I tried to build the Dynahi in a relative small case so the challenge was to shield the trafos, i used grain-oriented-steel bands around the trafos and top covers also made from grain-oriented-steel, added 70.- usd to the BOM but was well invested, no inducted noise at all :-).
The amp is bias to 0.625 v so that the case can handle the heat. Sounds superb as the dynalo. I have a second headphone out on the back, i will use it together with the ifi iesl pro to drive my stax headphones (as my sony vfet via the iesl to drive the electrostats).
https://www.head-fi.org/gallery/album/kevin-gilmore-dynahi.1154508/
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they arrived today, thanks a lot for your work cspirou
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Package arrived, was away some weeks, thanks ?