ZephyrSapphire

Twas 11.30pm when I posted. Was about to go to bed at that moment. Just listed the hi-end ones currently available. Oh nuts. Forgot Sennheiser's IE-8.

Westone 3 - Basshead Shure SE530 - Laid-back fun UE Triple.fi 10 - Forward fun Etymotic ER4S/P - Analytical Sleek SA6 - Never tried Sleek SA9 - Coming soon Audio-Technica ATH-CK10 - Never tried Audio-Technica ATH-CK100 - Never tried Klipsch Custom 3 - Never tried Klipsch X10 - Never tried

I'm slowly learning Japanese, that's why it's personally important to me to listen to the proper pronunciations. If I was able to fluently understand Japanese, I doubt I'd be struggling with it.

MY BAD again then for making people misinterpret.

Pronunciation of "Ju", "Su", "Zu". Very important to pronounce them right in Japanese as pronouncing them wrong/switching one with the other, could change the meaning of the whole word or make a word make no sense.

MY BAD then even though I did say "Japanese music" to begin with. EDIT: Now I'm gonna get bashed for not specifying what part of Japanese music, aren't I?

That, I 100% agree. It's like my food example, basically. The "boring" factor is like when you taste something you like, but it doesn't taste special compared to other food which has generally the same taste. That's when you go back to it again and again to understand the taste.

AFAIK Japanese music in most cases have no slang at all. They only have an accent if they try to pronounce English words due to Japanese pronunciation influences. I'm not trying to piss anyone off. I'm the one getting pissed off because I'm getting bashed with general content for specified content. I suppose. But in all out relation to the first post, I was just wondering if the HD800 could pick up those sounds, not looking for recommendations. The only pair of headphones which wasn't side by side was the RS-1. Every other pair was listened to one after the other. And seriously, they are just impressions based on love hate situations. It's like food seriously. You put it in your mouth first, love or hate the taste. If you love the taste, you take another bite, savour it and understand the taste. If you hate the taste, then I don't need to tell you what to do if you hate it. This is why I'm emphasising, lack OBVIOUS detail. LACK OBVIOUS DETAIL. Not "OBVIOUSLY LACK DETAIL". I enjoy receiving feedback and criticism but I do not like it when people stray from the topic. Well to be honest the spot I was listening to during the meet was at the far end from where most of the noise was happening. But yeah, noise is noise.

I suppose people are over-generalising that what I said was a list of what headphones were good or bad. My list is a specified list, listing headphones which IMHO lack obvious detail for Japanese music. God.. I didn't say that these headphones sound like shit, overall. Even the first line of my post specified something. "I wonder if these headphones can do well with Japanese music." Everyone just skipped to seeing the fail fail fail epic fail I suppose.

I too wish to enjoy higher fidelity, not merely just enjoying what comes out of headphones. To enjoy is to feel the music. But of course there are those headphones which to my ears aren't able to pick up certain details, which IMO is not that enjoyable if I have to struggle to pick up these details. No doubt that the headphones I said which failed do have their positives, but just not enough detail to enjoy the music which I listen to. English does not really emphasize on strict pronunciation. Easy, EZ, Yiizi, so many ways of pronouncing of it without running away from the meaning. But for Japanese music, "Zu", "Su", "Ju" are so important that if you mention the wrong one, it could either a) make the word make no sense at all or become an entirely different word. Now. I don't get why people are bashing just because to my ears these headphones lack obvious (or what should be obvious) detail. NOTE: "Lack obvious detail", NOT "obviously lack detail"

Gah. Back to the main topic. Who's getting this pair of headphones?

But I personally don't see a point of enjoying music if you have to really concentrate to listen whether you're getting the sound you want or not. Keyword: enjoy

Grado no fun. Supra-aural hurts. I spent at least 10 minutes with each of those headphones during meets. And everyone knows how noisy meets can be. Newbs. Maybe. Sydney needs more gear.

I just wanna enjoy my Japanese music

FLAC.

The MS-Pro seriously made me suffer at trying to differentiating "Zu" and "Su". The RS-1's were coming out of a Maple Audio amp thingy though. Not the Lisa combo.

Ngeh. I tested them with acoustic music. So basically it's just the vocalist and his acoustic guitar. So yeah, IMO. Of course it could be the gear.

The ER4S is partially doing it well right now with my shitty setup. The best I heard it was using the Pico as a DAC and the Lisa as the amp. Never really could forget that moment. EDIT: I did my comparisons with the Pico/Lisa combo for all those other headphones.

Gah. What I meant by the fail fail fail epic fail was that these headphones did badly with Japanese music with the ones with "Epic Fail" barely being able to differentiate "Ju", "Su" & "Zu" in Japanese music unless you really concentrate.

Picky picky picky. But of course the ER4S is able to differentiate "Ju", "Zu" and "Su" without any problem in Japanese music whereas the ones which failed, well, failed to do so. To my ears of course.

Nuts. I forgot the W11JPN. Those failed as well to my ears.

I wonder if these headphones can do well with Japanese music. Ultrasone PRO750 & ED.9 Fail. Denon Marklblabla Fail. Sennheiser HD600 & HD650 Epic Fail. Grado RS-1 Fail. Audio-Technica W5000 & AD2000 Fail. AKG K701 Fail. Alessandro MS-Pro Epic Fail. Etymotic ER4S Pass.

Well it's past 1am here. But yeah. Whatever. Happy New Year to all! May your new year start off wonderfully.

Wrong forum to talk about markl mods.