HeadphoneAddict

Right, so that still leaves reason #1.

The KGBH Naaman has reminded me more of your ES-1 with the O2 Mk1, with a little harder attack or more aggressive sound or punch to it. It wasn't bad, just different than what I am used to (a more tubey romantic sound). I think the right tubes would make a big difference in the sound, and it could always be different just from that.

I thought it's claim to fame was being able to get bit perfect jitter free 24/96 music out of a computer that only has USB and no coax or optical out, so your coax capable DAC can decode it splendidly. Of course for the same price you could get a Mac mini with optical out, but some peeps claim it will have more jitter than something like the Bel Canto.

Silence of the Lambs: "Jame "Buffalo Bill" Gumb: It rubs the lotion on its skin. It does this whenever it is told." "Jame "Buffalo Bill" Gumb: It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again. [to his dog, Precious]" or

I'm pretty sure Smeggy managed to slide 7 feet of 1/4" super nylon sleeve over the blue rubber outer portion of the canare cable.

Maybe I'll have to look at a used DA10 when peeps upgrade to the DA11, or my budget says may I should stick to the Pico DAC-only like originally planned for my second rig.

I got the impression that even Naaman was a little disappointed with the O2 on the KGBH, at least vs his K1000 out of the B22 (or the Jade - Gasp!). His is not a KGBHSE and it's possible the SE would be better, or rrolling tubes could change that completely as well. But the Buffalo DAC was great as a source and I wouldn't change that in his rig. With the GES I was able to eek more treble out of the O2 Mk1 and Mk2 with a change from the stock 12BZ7 to some Telefunken smooth plate 12AX7 or GE "Wurlitzer" 12AX7. It gets even better when I switch from feeding the GES from the Apogee mini-DAC and use the Pico DAC/amp as a source/preamp. Alas, I worked out a trade of my O2 Mk1 for a low SN K1000 and we should both be cross shipping on Monday. I'm keeping the O2 Mk2 though, along with the Jade, HE60, ESP950 and the others.

This is the same stuff you installed over the blue Canare quad cable with the Smegma SFI woodies - you said it was a PITA. But, while it makes the cable stiffer than no sleeve, it is more flexible than techflex.

I read the pdf about PIC and said that was one of the main things that attracted me to the DA11, other than the DA10 sounding better than my Mini-DAC. I think it is a great idea.

I'm pretty sure I posted my thoughts on the treble a couple of days ago. I won't argue with your comments at all, other than if the O2 is the first phone I pick up to listen to that the brain adjusts to the slightly decreased treble quickly and fills it in. Naamanf's KGBH did not change the nature of the treble other than to give everything a slightly faster attack or aggressiveness which it also imparted to the bass (not necessarily in a bad way, just different).

Yes it was, I admitted it as well.

It was more like wishful thinking, and being silly at the same time. That doesn't seem to play well here.

Well, I rest my case here: http://www.head-case.org/forums/home-source-components/5602-new-lavry-da11-dac-4.html#post207274 I'll leave the snappy comebacks to everyone else. Now, can we get back on topic and stop crapping on this thread?

[snip] NVM, it's not worth it.

[snip] NVM, it's not worth it.

Screw you and the dinosaur you rode up on.

Then what will all the predators do without prey?

That's just it - people here are allowed to attack, and the recipient is expected to just take it up the butt. And, then everyone feels free to ignore the important post just below the complaint, so the thread gets totally derailed.

I wrote these positive comments back in November 2008, without being a Shill. 11/9/08 - mini-meet with plaidplatypus at my crib - MD5000DE, Stax - Koss ESP950 - HE60, ATH-A900 vs D2000 - Head-Fi: Covering Headphones, Earphones and Portable Audio I had NO financial interest or obligations to Lavry back then, and what I said about the DA10 in this thread were documented as being my thoughts long ago. I was not making things up in my recent posts just to get favors from Dan 3 months later. I was telling the truth about what I thought about it.

Sometimes I hate this place. You guys just freaking pick apart every little thing I say, and find hidden meaning in it and ulterior motives that don't exist, just to puff up your chests and feel superior. I feel sorry for you all.

What?

So, you are saying that if I trade my stuff for a DA11 then I am not an impartial party and I am working for the company to hawk the product while claiming that I have no financial interest in the product. But if I sell my stuff and buy a DA11 that changes everything? It's not like he could take take the DA11 back once it's mine, so I could say any bad thing I wanted about it if it were true. Besides, I said I didn't seriously expect to be taken up on the offer. Anyways, I'll likely sell the Edition 9 and then use the money for my HD800 in 2 weeks, so it's moot point anyways. The DA11 will probably be next in line to purchase, unless I am really hurting for money and have to get a Stello DA100 Signature instead. But I'd rather wait as the DA11's "PIC" appeals to me, and I liked the HP out of the DA10 a lot too. For feeding multiple amps I would just have to get an XLR switch box or distribution center, or feed the XLR into my SP amp and use the RCA to loop out into my Woo GES.

Ouch. Why, if I am out $1600 for Edition 9, re-cable and spare parts its not like getting the DA11 for free? Not that I expect him to take me up on a silly but serious offer.

I've compared the Pico amp with DAC to the Apogee mini-DAC via USB previously, and I think the Pico holds up well. As a matter of fact, with my Stax O2 Mk2 the Woo GES sounds better being fed by the Pico than Apogee which is fine with everything else. They both have great detail and space, but the Apogee is more tubey sounding when combined with the GES and O2 Mk2. I should wait till I hear the Pico DAC only before buying anything else.

I think the treble on the two is pretty similar, and slightly less bright than the Jade, ESP950 or HE60 (and even less bright than an SR-Lambda). But, after a few minutes with them on the head, the brain fills in the treble just fine after it acclimates. With Spritzer's earpad spring mod the mids pull back and are not as forward, but still not quite as natural/neutral as the Mk1 mids. The Mk1 bass also extends a little deeper, and where the Mk2 seems flat to 31Hz and 3-4dB down at 25Hz the Mk1 waits till 20Hz to be 3-4dB down. Spritzer thinks the roll-off might be due to my Woo GES, but I don't know.