finally an electrostatic transportable

[Omega_ELS]

57 minutes ago, kevin gilmore said:

 

 

 

Hi Kevin.
Thanks for your reply.
The boards are sandwiched together with a thermally conductive material and a bunch of thermal paste between the housings.
I couldn't figure out an easy way to get inside without breaking everything.

 

I'm hoping the problem is still in the power supply, since you're right—it was heating up.
The diodes were burning out frequently, then the transistor itself, and then possibly the transformer itself—its resistance is now 0.1 ohms on the primary winding and 4 ohms on both secondaries. I'm not sure if that's normal.

 

It's been working without any problems on a third-party power supply for half an hour now. I'll continue testing.

 

I couldn't think of anything simpler or better than connecting 4 of these modules to get +-400v

To my surprise, these modules produce even more than 10mA and +-400v

But they have one major drawback: noise. The throttles in them make noise.

Edited 4 hours ago by Omega_ELS

[kevin gilmore]

links for those power modules please.

how warm does the chassis heatsink get?

edit: what is the total power input that runs the switchers? 

Edited 3 hours ago by kevin gilmore

[Omega_ELS]

7 minutes ago, kevin gilmore said:

links for those power modules please.

how warm does the chassis heatsink get?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/275736642694

 

 

its max MAX1771 12v to 150-220v DC
it can be ajusted 
i set 200v and just connected it 200+200 for +400 and 200+200 for -400

 

I read a similar problem about noise here but I couldn't find a solution.

 

Well, unfortunately, I don't have a thermometer or pyrometer, but it feels like it's probably about 45 degrees Celsius or so - maybe more/less, It dissipates pretty well. 

 

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Omega_ELS

[kevin gilmore]

those are not isolated. at least they sure look non isolated. how you put them in series with common power supply input. 

[Omega_ELS]

1 hour ago, kevin gilmore said:

those are not isolated. at least they sure look non isolated. how you put them in series with common power supply input. 

i use 4 of this one

https://www.lcsc.com/product-detail/C5279972.html

DEXU Electronics B1212LS-1WR3

it's something like galvanic isolation

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Omega_ELS

[Omega_ELS]

1 hour ago, kevin gilmore said:

edit: what is the total power input that runs the switchers? 

It's been working reliably for an about hour now.I will continue testing 24\7.
The power consumption of the modules themselves from the 12V power supply is 550 mA under load.
The power consumption of the amplifier itself from these modules at +-400 V is only 5.5 mA.

[kevin gilmore]

the dexu parts are providing the isolation. this works. extra parts, maybe the same performance.

Edited 1 hour ago by kevin gilmore

[Omega_ELS]

Just now, kevin gilmore said:

the lcsc parts are definitely isolated.  they work fine.

the maxim boards are not isolated and you cannot put them in series because input ground and output ground are tied together.

 

Yes, you're right.
That's why I had to connect it like this.

 

4 minutes ago, kevin gilmore said:

this works. extra parts, maybe the same performance.

I'll get this thing tomorrow
12v to +-390v DC DC
I hope it doesn't beep
or at least there's a way to eliminate the beeping with an RC filter or something.

I'm just trying to try all the DC-DC modules before spending $50+ on those cool USA12400S-8 ones. But most likely, I'll just have to buy them.

 

 

[kevin gilmore]

those modules do work, i have a few. the diodes on the back run stupid hot. never tested for hours and hours. there was a company in poland i think building an electrostatic amp with 4 of these. first version with no fans. second version with fans. both versions burn up in a couple of months.

[kevin gilmore]

so my version has an amplifier power of around 20 watts.  the hvrv version seems to be half of that. may be the reason why there were a couple of comments about the sound vs the original to126 version.

[Omega_ELS]

41 minutes ago, kevin gilmore said:

those modules do work, i have a few. the diodes on the back run stupid hot. never tested for hours and hours. there was a company in poland i think building an electrostatic amp with 4 of these. first version with no fans. second version with fans. both versions burn up in a couple of months.

Do you mean Phenomenon amplifiers?)

I saw what was inside and it seemed funny))

17 minutes ago, kevin gilmore said:

so my version has an amplifier power of around 20 watts.  the hvrv version seems to be half of that. may be the reason why there were a couple of comments about the sound vs the original to126 version.

Well, if I turn the volume up to maximum, the amplifier can consume up to 10 mA at peaks, but I don’t listen that loud. I dont know if its minited to +-400v or maybe it can handle more.

Edited 59 minutes ago by Omega_ELS