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42 minutes ago, BadgerMcBadger said:
is powering the grhv without a heatsink for the c2m1000170d and 10m90s OK if there is no load connected?
yes, for short term testing, e.g. for checking output voltages, voltage regulation etc.
(P.S. its also possible to test the grlv with no heatsink with no load.)
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5 hours ago, Craig Sawyers said:
It's an ONSemi part. I really don't know what has happened with ONsemi. They bought Fairchild and Sanyo, and have obsoleted most of the really useful audio parts. Anything remaining has ended up on ridiculous lead times.
We're well beyond the Covid excuse, and I'm left with bungling corporate incompetence as the only explanation remaining
I hate nosemi...
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T2 psu back panel, design and cut. I wanted to have the pin outs of the sockets for the umbilical chords from the psu to amp to be on the psu back for future reference..
I decided to go for 10degree 0.1mm tip engraving bit for the lettering, 0.025mm depth of cut rather than laser. Screw holes done with 3.175 end mill and main cut outs 6mm end mill. Now I have a good collection of quality bits and little experience now. CNC machining is starting to become FUN 🙂. Its so much nicer and more satisfying watching a CNC cut than using a hand drill and Dremel... Tool changing is a bit of a hassle and then I have to use a Z block and Z probe command get the new Z height reference for the tool sickout. So I try to minimise the number of different tools used.
Tape hold-down and CA glue works perfectly. I'm very happy with the surface finish, perhaps the text for the pinouts and lines could be a little narrower, but its certainly not a disaster. Cut still currently in progress:
The nice thing about symmetrical panels is that you can always adjust your settings and have another go with the other side...
I decided to decrease the line width by half, nock 20% off the size of the socket decals, decrease the socket decal font size, change the style of the lines and reduce the engraving depth from 0.025 to 0.02mm...
I think the new version should look a little less blocky and a bit more refined... The 0.02mm engraving depth is slightly too little, other than that I think its an improvement.
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8 minutes ago, audiostar said:
James, make the batteries exchangeable and go to daughter boards as well.
The board is too big and too expensive to justify itself for a transistor swap alone.I completely agree that if you have T2 pcbs already its not worth getting new ones. I'm thinking gerbers with minimal changes for new builders who want a build and forget solution only using available transistors. Serial/habitual/continual modifiers can always edit the gerbers of my or others T2 pcbs.
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1 hour ago, JoaMat said:
Thanks James, your schematics gives a clear picture how to switch to KSA1220 and KSC2690. Unfortunately, it seems that KSA1220 is out of business. Fortunately, TTA004 and TTC004 can replace KSA1220 respectively KSC2690.
*Sigh* why can't we have nice transistors?... I have updated the schematic to show both KSA/KSC and TTA/TTC series transistors.
I'm working on changing the gerbers so that leg twists will not be needed 🙂
One channel done, I think, needs checking...
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So if my brain is not totally scrambled (which is possible its my first week back lecturing).
KSC2690 or TTC004 NPN replaces 2SK216 N channel. Base-> Gate, Emitter -> Source, Collector -> Drain
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Ksa1220 or TTA004 PNP replaces 2SJ79 P channel, Base-> Gate, Emitter -> Source, Collector -> Drain
which gives modern T2 circuit (green replacements original moved to the side)
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On 9/22/2022 at 5:23 PM, BadgerMcBadger said:
is 550 pulsed 475 continuous VDC good enough for the big caps on the grhv?
This depends on what DC output voltage you are building for which depends on the input AC voltage to the GRHV which depends on the AC rms output of the transformer you are using...
for example if you are building for 400V DC output to power for example a blue hawaii then you need about 360VAC rms input to the golden reference. (360VAC rms is about 509 peak when full wave rectified by the diode bridge before the input cap (DC voltage * square root of 2) which is enough for the internal voltage drops inside the GRHV and gives you some margin so the GRHV can actually regulate). Mains voltage typically varies by about +-10% so that is factored in to. But if you mains voltage is high then the input filter cap will see additional voltage so 550 rated cap should be fine for 400VDC output... If you are going for 450VDC output (about the maximum a GRHV can do) then your cap is going to be marginal and a 600V rated cap would be better....
The output cap should only see the output DC voltage, so if your GRHV is outputting 400V DC a 450VDC or 500VDC rated output cap should be fine.
Dont forget many high voltage caps especially the 680uF are 80mm tall and so too tall to fit into a 2U case.... Kemet make some nice high voltage caps with life time ratings of around 15000 hours.
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23 minutes ago, audiostar said:
Exactly, the PSU is outputting 400-450V and R28, R29 are single resistors.
CRCW2512475KFKEG which is same series as the original and so is 500V 1W and 475K should be fine in this application and is in stock at mouser....
lets say the resistor has the full 500V across it - which is worst possible case,
V/R = I
so the current through the bleed resistor would be 500/475000 = 0.00105A
power dissipation in the bleed resistor would be W = I * V = 0.00105 * 500 = 0.53W and so well within the 1W capacity of the resistor...
if the resistor has less than the full 500V across it the power dissipation will be less...
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44 minutes ago, audiostar said:
Thanks, James. Need to check the PCBs later on - the CRCW2512511KFKEG is used for R28, R29 in the base board.
Thanks for the photos
R30 and R31 are in series and look to be the bleed resistors for the high voltage input smoothing cap so the voltage is shared between R30 and R31 but the input cap has the highest voltage across it. 200V working voltage is probably not enough here since the input is probably rectified to more than 400VDC
R28 is the single bleed resistor for the output cap and so has the entire output dc voltage across it. So unless your psu is only outputting 200V or less, then a 200V working voltage resistor will definitely not be enough by a large margin.
Since its a bleed resistor the exact value is not critical, a higher value would simply mean the high voltage would bleed to 0V at a bit slower speed and a bit lower value would very slightly increase power consumption when the power supply is on...
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1 hour ago, audiostar said:
Thanks, Pars. Those are all 200V and the CRCW2512511KFKEG is 500V. No idea atm if that matters where it is used.
I don't have a layout or schematic for the golden reference HV SMD but if it is similar to the through hole. The only places resistors with 250K+ resistance are used is in
1. bleed resistors for the high voltage smoothing caps - and so subject to high dc voltage. My best guess would be they are using a single resistor for the bleed unlike the through hole which uses two 250K 1/2W. So a single 1W 500V 510K would be about right here
2. output sense resistors - and so subject to high dc voltage
3. in the 580V bias circuit and so again subject to high dc voltage
But this is only a guess based on looking at the through hole schematic... I have never built a golden reference hv SMD version.
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10 minutes ago, JoaMat said:
That panel looks good. Is it for an original DIY T2 or a Modified DIY T2?
mostly modern T2 or possibly fully modern if the tta/ttc substitution for the 79 and 216 proves to be reliable. I don't think I will ever build an original.
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5 minutes ago, n_maher said:
Looks awesome to me. I mean you could add a logo of some kind if you come up with some artwork? I’m not 100% clear on where the required blue LED goes.
REQUIRED blue led is the blue ring around the power button on the power supply....
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First attempt at a complete front panel. Single flute 6mm end mill and 0.1mm V bit used. Depth of cut 0.02mm on the engraving. I also used tape and CA glue as the hold down method for the first time - I really like it. Much less vibration and far quieter when cutting in the middle of the work piece compared to just clamping the corners. As usual no deburring or finishing pass. The surface finish on the volume pot pocket is silky smooth - the photo does not do it justice. Very happy with the results. Not so happy that I have zero artistic talent for cool looking front panel designs....
Another go at a Stax socket with the better quality end mills. Much better surface finish than my previous attempt cheapo mills and I'm using faster feeds and speeds this time. Just shows that a crap end mill gives inferior results even on soft plastics. There are no burs around the edges of the cuts and the surface is smooth.
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1 hour ago, Rinat said:
But I thought that Joamat collected all his thought and updates in mini-T2. Am I wrong ?
I would not want to speak for Joamat, but the impression I got was that the mini T2 was an attempt to simplify the complex design and make it as small as possible by going surface mount whenever possible.
Ther is not a lot of space around Q17n but I think a 13mm by 4mm 1KV 2200pF (10mm lead spacing) film cap like a wima MKP1O112203C00JSSD will fit and there are film caps of the same size and rating ranging from 1000pF to 6800pF.
The area around Q17p is more problematic due to an extra track which results in one tracking having to be rerouted. Channel 1:
channel 2:
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2 hours ago, Rinat said:
A short table with results:
It seems that active battery without the capacitor increases amplitude of signal at the base of Q26 with frequency, especially the original battery.
Has it been done intentionally? I just can't see a reason. This imperfection of AB probably decreases stability at HF and slightly lower bass.
Measurements have been made with Tektronix THS720 and P5102 voltage probe.
I can't wait to measure these batteries in the amp itself
Nice work, its always good to see progress and new ideas for the T2.
Just to clarify. I did not design the mostly modern T2 or its battery. I simply created a series of posts on my build and posted my modified gerbers and updated and clarified schematics. I have been trying to collate the information scattered over years and years of posts into one or two long posts to provide a detailed starting point for new builders. I would not want to take credit away from the people who actually did the hard work of designing and testing.
Your battery looks promising. If I could suggest, PTFE caps of sufficient voltage are quite large and not easily available new. I think it would be possible to find a place on the amp pcb for 1KV film caps e.g. wima. I would also be interested in the effect on the existing mostly modern T2 battery if just the cap is fitted - since such a modification would be very cost effective for existing mostly modern T2s. If the cap mod is shown to be stable and reliable I would be happy to update my existing post to include it in the schematic as a option and update the gerbers to make a place for adding the cap.
regards
James
P.S independently of your effort MLA and I think Joamat have been working on a variant of the mostly modern T2 amp board that replaces the unavailable new 79 and 216 transistors with tta004 and ttc004, which if they prove stable, could result in a T2 only using current production components. (the pinout of the tta/ttc is different to the originals but they have not so far had to make any other changes).
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On 8/29/2022 at 2:38 PM, audiostar said:
Hi James,
from your detailed description, it looks like the cutter being the culprit. It would be the first to swap out.
Things are looking up again... I just took delivery of some 6mm single flute DLC coated end mills, selling says they are designed to cut aluminium without liquid lubrication. Initial testing looks very good, absolutely throws chips out of the cut into near earth orbit when doing a full width slot. Zero chip welding. Surface finish as good if not slightly better than the 2mm end mill (So far got the speeds and feeds for the 6mm up to 400mm/min feed rate, 1.5mm DOC and 11K rpm). Cutting is very quiet and almost silent at 1mm DOC... The vfd and control box fans are louder than the cutting noises. I am sure there is much more to be got out of this end mill, but I'm progressing conservatively because these 6mm end mills are not cheap and I don't want to push it to destruction.
The biggest take away for me is that buying cheap end mills from the manufacturer of the cncs website is not the best move and that end mill quality absolutely radically effects what you can do. I also think i'm going to invest in a oil/air mist system...
(the hideous grey mess is the 3.175mm POC (piece of crap) end mill WITH cutting fluid dripped onto the cut...
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middle slot is 6mm end mill 1.5DOC 3mm total depth 11Krpm 400mm/min no cutting fluid no finishing pass no deburring...
front slot same settings as middle slot but 1mm DOC and 10Krpm.
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1 hour ago, audiostar said:
Which aliminium alloy is this exactly you are working with?
6061-T6 being the standard for CNC machining and excellent all purpose alloy.
i have no idea of the type of aluminium, its a disapante case I purchased some time ago from modshop.
The fact I got such good results with a 2mm end mill, especially on chip removal and surface finish on it makes me suspect the 3mm end mill is just crap (the 3mm comes from a different supplier and is a different brand to the 2mm). So I have ordered some 3mm end mills of the same brand as the 2mm.
The spindle does not seem to be slowing down, vibration was low, cutting noise was low and I did not use any coolant with the 2mm...
as far as I can see if I can go 300mm/min 1.6mm depth of cut on a 2mm end mill with zero issues, low cutting noise and no lubrication,
(I managed to break it at 500mm/min 1.6mm DOC but I was deliberately seeing how fast I could go), I should be able to do similar with a 3mm end mill of similar geometry (both single flute and both DLC coated)... but the best result I got with the 3mm was 0.2mm DOC, poor top edge and much reduced rpm compared to the 2mm. Any time I tried to increase the rpm chip welding became worse and chip evacuation did not improve, any DOC above 0.2mm I got lots of vibration and nasty noises.... looking carefully at the cutting the 3mm was not pushing material up the flute instead material was wrapping itself around the outside of the cutter and then welding itself to the top edges of the slot. I did not seem to be cutting so much as ploughing. Slower feeds resulted in the chips becoming like power and welding themselves all over the cut like fur... I tried cutting oil with the 3mm and this did not stop the welding.Feeling the edge of the flutes the 2mm feels super sharp all the way up whereas the flute the 3mm only feels sharp right at the bottom tip of the flute and the rest of the flute all the way up does not feel more than moderately sharp. I suspect this is why I cant get any sort of depth of cut. Even plunge cuts at the beginning of the slotting sounded much nicer on the 2mm than the 3mm end mill. (plunges straight down at 25mm/min)
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3 hours ago, EL_Ken said:
I am building a pair of split boards(cfp3smt2splitpre&cfp3smt2splitamp)
It is difficult to find 4.2kOhms&7kOhms resisters while I’m planning to use Vishay/Dale CMF55 series.
And there are only a few choices from Mouser (4.2k:66-RC55LF-D-4.2K / 7k:71-PTF567K0000BYEK)
Should I stay the exact value or use 4.22k&6.98k instead.Thanks
Short answer: in almost all cases high accuracy is not required unless specified otherwise in the bill of materials or schematic. Most builders are using 1% tolerance resistors up to about 1W, except in the most critical of uses, and high wattage resistors are usually 5% or so.
Longer answer:
There are several factors to consider.
A "7K" 1% resistor could actually be between 7.07K and about 6.93K and still be in spec. Similarly 4.2K could be between about 4.24K and 4.16K and still be labelled as 4.2K 1% resistor. So if you are lucky with your 4.22K and 6.98K resistors they could fall within the specs of the 7K and 4.2K anyway.
If you have a good LCR meter or multimeter you could buy multiple resistors, measure and hand select the closest match to the values you want. But this is usually not necessary and requires a highly accurate measuring device.
If you need accuracy without measurement you can go for 0.1% parts but they cost more, typically don't come is as wide variety of wattages and often have lower voltage ratings.
Also consider that all resistors heat up when current passes through them and the heat changes their resistance. The amount the resistance changes depends on the materials and manufacturing of the resistor and is usually specified in ppm per degree of temp rise (lower is better i.e. more stable but also more costly). Unless the use of the resistor in the circuit is critical, around 50 to 200ppm is fine for low wattage resistors and multiple hundred ppm is common for higher wattage... So in circuit, depending upon the power the resistor is dissipating, its resistance will vary from that measured when cold anyway...
It is vital you don't exceed the voltage or wattage rating of a resistor and it is good practice to operate them bellow their ratings for safety and long term reliability. When looking at the voltage rating look for working voltage - this is the maximum voltage it can handle continuously. Some specs don't tell you working voltage but rather the maximum voltage just before failure which is a lot less useful. Some specs don't tell you if the voltage rating is maximum or working... so assume its maximum and the working voltage will be a lot lower.
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11 hours ago, Kerry said:
Congrats!
Thank you Kerry, however, yesterday I then tried an uncoated 2 flute 2mm slotting endmill... the results was not good at all.... very poor chip evacuation and lots of chips welding to each other. Almost no chips get thrown clear of the cut. I'm not sure if the end mill is garbage or if something else is wrong.... I was looking online for some kind of guide that had photos of poor results and what to do about them... but there seems to be very little information other than feeds and speed calculators which seem to suggest parameters that I cant get close to.
I tried to extrapolate settings from the great results I got from the single flute 2mm end mill to a single flute 3.175mm end mill but to no avail. The 3.175 end mill could not run at anywhere near the rpm or depth of cut of the 2mm end mill without welding, vibration and large burns on the edges of the cut.... Perhaps the 3.175mm end mill is just crap (its not the same brand as the 2mm)...
wow cnc aluminium is frustrating...
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I'm starting to get the feeds and speeds dialled in now I have a 1.5Kw water-cooled spindle and some good spoil board bed rigidity, properly levelled and trammed the machine. I'm slowly gaining confidence and beginning to believe the reviews that said the Vasto can cut aluminium...
I managed to cut ventilation slots in aluminium using a 2mm diameter single flute DLC end mill with 300mm/min feed rate, depth of cut 1.6mm, 50% overlap, 18000rpm. The test slots were 160mm long, 3mm deep, I tried 2mm, 3mm and 4mm widths.... surface finish is like a mirror, no burs and no chips welding themselves to anything. No cutting fluid was used and there was no finishing pass:
Thats so better than my first attempts with the 400W motor and a corn cob end mill which produced garbage surface finish at much lower surface speeds, much lower depth of cut and destroyed the end mill very quickly:
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21 minutes ago, padam said:
However, to my ears, a lot of the times it also sounds thinner, drier, more artificial, less coherent, missing that "inexplicable magic" that a 007 can convey, that pulls the listener in the music without forcefully trying to grab the attentionI entirely agree, for me the object of listening to music is emotional involvement and enjoyment. The combination of the mostly modern T2 and the SR007 does this for me in a way nothing else I have listened to can. It makes music rather than throwing detail and frequencies at you. I don't care if its not as "accurate" as something else or technically or measurably not as good. I know of no measurement or technical specification that correlates with enjoyment or musicality.
I think the general trend in hifi has been for things to get brighter and brighter in the search for more "resolution" and "speed" and more "high end" sound, hence the trends for metal drivers, more silver plated/solid silver things like wires/fuses caps etc etc. If you like brighter then the sr007 is not for you, if you don't like modern sound then the sr007 can be wonderful - if driven properly and the standard stax energizers can't drive it property at all.
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4 hours ago, Craig Sawyers said:
Anyone using laser engraving with a 20W laser needs to be exceptionally careful. That is 2000 times eye safe, and is a Class IV laser https://www.lasersafetyfacts.com/laserclasses.html . The raw beam will drill a hole in your retina, causing explosive boiling of whatever humor is next to the retina.
Assuming that you aren't going to get the raw beam in your eye, scattered light from the focus is also far above eye safe.
So - you absolutely need to wear safety goggles. Not Amazon hokey ones - but serious ones from say Thorlabs https://www.thorlabs.com/ , and expect to pay $200.
Then interlock the door to prevent anyone in your household inadvertently walking in and getting eye damage.
I spent many years working with lasers in this class, and wearing googles was mandatory as was interlocked doors. During laser safety training (also mandatory) an ex-Nam veteran said that nothing in active service remotely compared with the horror of looking at the world through his blood-filled eyeball.
Nuff said.
my solution to have solid brick between me and the laser. I run the laser in one room with the room door closed and control/monitor it from the adjoining room using a cheap web camera. I don't put any faith in it or the goggles that came with the laser....
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7 hours ago, audiostar said:
Thanks, James and Kerry. I can do that additional control for the laser, no problem. Haven't researched much about mounting a laser etching head and what it would take.
Looks like I am going to use that ATC spindle with a Hitachi sensorless vector VFD.
And this would be a cheaper alternative.the diode lasers tend to come in rectangular aluminium blocks which have fins and act as heatsinks with a fan blowing downwards through the heatsink and a small controller on the top.
The standard 400W spindle mount on my machine has 4 small notches in it so it can also mount the laser just by holding on to the corners. You don't need a high clamping force. So you could probably 3d print something if necessary. The hole is 52mm diameter.
If you are planning to engrave or cut wood then additional air flow is recommended to clear the smoke (which would otherwise scatter the laser light) for aluminium engraving there seems to be no smoke.
wow that spindle with quick change costs more than my entire cnc machine with the upgrades I have done so far.... My vfd and spindle is cheap chinesium, the only issues going that route is that there is a general lack of documentation and the seller could not help so i had to guess, experiment and look at you tube videos of similar setups for the vfd settings etc to get things to work. The vfd did come with a manual which was mostly understandable but although I purchased the spindle and vfd as a bundle the spindle had zero documentation and no information on how to set it up the vfd for it... the seller could not even tell me the diameter of the tubing required to fit the compression fittings on the spindle for the water cooling... so I had to guess and fortunately got it right first time. I also had to guess how many poles the motor had and use a tachometer to verify.... So if you are going chinesium I would ask the seller some questions about the tube diameters, motor poles, vfd settings etc and see if they have a clue before purchasing from them...
Also I have found a general lack of attention to detail going chinesium, for example the vfd has three terminals marked earth. Two are totally isolated from everything including each other. Only one actually connects to the earth pin of the mains plug and the spindle takes a 4 pin plug, 3 for the power phases and you would assume the 4th pin is to ground the spindle body, nope no continuity to the body. Also on the vfd it has a temperature readout for the driver mostfets... always says 0C googling says this is normal temp never implemented....
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56 minutes ago, audiostar said:
Kerry, can you recommend a laser head for etching anodized aluminium?
James, which laser are you using to engrave the above? Couldn't find but maybe I missed it..
PS: soon to join the CNC machinist club with a DIY CNC and a 3hp ATC motor.
i have the foxalien 20W which is a single diode with 5W actual optical output.
fox alien also sell a 40W which is dual diode and about 10W optical output. You need a cnc controller which has a laser output. The fox alien is 3 pin - 0V dc power ( I think 12 or 24V) and a pwm for laser power control. Im using lightburn software which works well and has some laser test and calibration templates built in. General consensus on the internet seems to be that if you run a diode laser at full output you wear out the diode very quickly. So im tending to go slower movement and lowish power. The cnc controller board takes the spindle speed control commands and converts them to pwm signals for the laser output power control. On the fox alien vasto this requires setting a slide switch on the back of the controller to laser mode AND sending a G code command to go into laser mode. The slide switch disables the 48VDC motor output via a relay, disables rpm control via the speed potentiometer and enables the 3 pin laser output. The g code command tells the cnc controller to convert g code rpm commands to a pwm laser power control signal.
I have also changed the stock 400W 48VDC air cooled spindle for a 65mm diameter er11 1.5Kw water cooled and a vfd. I would have preferred 80mm diameter er16 as suggested in this thread but I don't have an 80mm mounting bracket and the Z axis of my cnc does not look like it will take a bracket for 80mm spindles. Initial results are promising compared to the 400W. I still need to tweak the vfd settings for accel, breaking and torque. The stock spindle is cheap and nasty. I took it apart and it has two small bearings and the case is thin and the entire thing is held together with two long bolts. Its not very rigid at all and certainly seems to be one of the weaknesses of the machine along with the spoil board.. The 1.5Kw feels far more rigid and is 3 phase 220VAC.
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calibrating the SRM-006tS drives me crazy
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Posted · Edited by jamesmking
Stax headphones are designed to take hundreds of volts of audio signal , a small offset of a few volts are absolutely not an issue.
The offset will change with temperature. ALL amplification devices are somewhat temperature sensitive - including valves and transistors.
you can demonstrate this easily, just blow gently onto the valves and what the offset change... This is why you are getting different results with the cover on and off. So don't worry you are not going to hear any difference or cause any damage to the headphones or shorten their life...