September 23, 200718 yr comment_52545 Before its over with, I'll own a CDP with a digital input. My computer is on the opposite side of the room from my rig. Currently I have a long USB cable running from the computer to the back of the Aqvox. Whenver the Aqvox gets replaced, I'll need something to do the USB -> Toslink/Coaxial thing. The name I remember the most from researching this kind of thing a while back was the M-Audio Transit. Is there any other piece I should consider? Report
September 24, 200718 yr comment_52550 granodemostasa likes the M-Audio Audiophile USB (that only does coax). humanflyz had the Trends Audio UD-10. Does the Turtle Beach Audio Advantage Micro (only toslink-mini) count as well? There are more cheap options that I can think up, but I can't say whether their quality is up to Head-Case standards... Report
September 24, 200718 yr Author comment_52551 E-MU 0404 USB would work as well true, and it seems like it would be a handy piece of gear to have around anyway. also its way fotm so... Report
September 24, 200718 yr comment_52553 http://www.hagtech.com/hagusb.html is a possible choice. Report
September 24, 200718 yr comment_52556 m-audio transit does toslink btw, dont get the TBAAM, it resamples the data twice or something, not bit perfect Report
September 24, 200718 yr Author comment_52557 m-audio transit does toslink btw, dont get the TBAAM, it resamples the data twice or something, not bit perfect yeah, I don't want it to do anything to the signal besides pass it on. Report
September 24, 200718 yr Author comment_52559 http://www.hagtech.com/hagusb.html is a possible choice. very cool, I like this. looks like a good, clean option. Report
September 24, 200718 yr Author comment_52574 Interesting words from Hagerman about the HagUSB: http://www.audiocircle.com/circles/index.php?topic=31581.msg281365 Report
September 24, 200718 yr comment_52575 I highly respect Hagerman. He seems to have proven himself to be a rather competent engineer. Report
September 24, 200718 yr comment_52619 I have both the E-MU0404 USB and M-Audio Transit. The Transit has flawless, rock solid, simple drivers with bit perfect without having to use ASIO. The E-MU has more complex drivers, and requires some monkying to get bit perfect working, but it has a lot more features compared to the Transit. I haven't compared the two side by side to see which sounds better. Report
September 24, 200718 yr comment_52625 I like the ones where you don't have to worry about the drivers... but the extra features on the external EMU are probably worth it. Report
September 24, 200718 yr Author comment_52627 well it came down to a compromise. In the world of USB -> Toslink/Coaxial devices, you can either have audiophile grade parts OR manufacturer supported drivers. I've decided this go round to opt on the side of audiophile grade parts. All these devices are so inexpensive that I'm sure one day I'll be able to try out the other side, but for the time being my positive experience with ASIO4All/Winamp and USB Dacs tells me to just stick with what I know works for me in my system. I'll either be getting the HagUSB or the Trends UD-10. Report
September 24, 200718 yr comment_52630 both of them have custom drivers if im not mistaken Yup that's correct. The M-Audio drivers are extremely simple, and IIRC what Steve Nugent of Empirical Audio based his drivers off on the old Off-Ramps. But the driverless soundcards are very nice. The only reason I have the E-MU0404 USB is because I use it as a DAC/headphone amp at work. Report
September 24, 200718 yr comment_52631 Yup that's correct. The M-Audio drivers are extremely simple, and IIRC what Steve Nugent of Empirical Audio based his drivers off on the old Off-Ramps. But the driverless soundcards are very nice. The only reason I have the E-MU0404 USB is because I use it as a DAC/headphone amp at work. the m-audio transit headphone out sucks? Report
September 24, 200718 yr comment_52637 the m-audio transit headphone out sucks? It's a line out, not an actual headphone amp. Report
September 24, 200718 yr comment_52658 It's a line out, not an actual headphone amp. oook, but cant you use the line out as a headphone out, or is it too weak? Report
September 24, 200718 yr comment_52659 I have both the EMU 0404 usb and the HagUSB (w/ asio4all drivers)... my take? I vastly prefer the EMU 0404 usb though I haven't used it as just an usb -> coax but as a dac as well. Why? Well, my Hagusb has HUGE problems with snaps/crackles/pops aligning with tiny bursts of cpu usage... mainly opening applications etc. While my EMU 0404 usb with all the buffers turned on thread priority going good has 0 issues. I do the same settings and more for Hagusb.. less problems but I still expect to hear at least 3-4 crackles/pops every 4 songs. It's very annoying. I'm probably going to buy another EMU 0404 usb and have it shipped to a modder and just use that with my Wavelength or if its mod viable at work and use my stock one at home. Report
September 24, 200718 yr comment_52661 oook, but cant you use the line out as a headphone out, or is it too weak? I've only tried it with my Sennheiser HD580, it gets loud but it sounds like crap. Report
October 25, 200718 yr comment_59831 ok, so I got the M-Audio Audiophile USB for $75 used on the other site, and damn, it owns my iriver as a transport. And also, I get to hook up both my iriver (optical) and the M-Audio (coax) as transports at the same time This makes me happy Report
October 25, 200718 yr comment_59833 you should really buy a Lite DAC Ah, jinp. i got to hear the Lite DAC Ah and an Entech 205 out of a Zana Deux (using it's switchable inputs), and the Lite DAC was hugely better. jinp, PM me. The Lite DAC AH that Reks is talking about just might be available. Report
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