gurubhai Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 Here is a rather unique & rare planar headphone : Rotel RH-930 back-electret headphones. This is an OEM version of Toshiba ?HR-910.? The wikiphonia entry suggests 910 but the pics on this japanese site are suggest hat it is OEM version of HR-810. The transformer is built into the TRS plug & so it can be used with usual dynamic amplifiers. The transformer plug has three settings- H, M & L The driver is 65 mm. No backwave damping here. Most electrets are considered infereior to the 'electrostats' but back-electrets are a bit different. Check this wikiphonia link for electret driver principle: From an engineering standpoint, the ideal diaphragm material is a polyester called boPET, biaxially-oriented polyethylene terephthalate film, aka Mylar or Hostaphan or Melinex. Problem is, boPET doesn't make a very good electret. So an engineer must either accept a compromise in the sound, or he can re-engineer the typical electrostatic headphone layout by metallizing a boPET diaphragm and applying the audio signal to it and relegating the electret material to the stators where its inferior mechanical properties won't matter. This inside-out or back-electret design was used by only two manufacturers: Toshiba (most notably the HR 910; Rotel also marketed an OEM model) and Audio-Technica (the ATH-8, aka the Signet TK33). About the Sound : The first thing that struck me was how smooth they were in mids & treble. I can't seem to pick any major peak/dip in there frequency response.I can play them as loud as I can from my amp & they don't get shouty. The Treble is very extended & without a hint of that plasticky sound that seems to bug most dynamic cans. In the stock form they have significant bass roll-off starting from 175 Hz & lower meaning that one would miss the mid-bass & that the male vocals sounded a bit thin. I improved the backwave seal of the cans & that has cured the vocals. The bass still rolls off but most of it is now in sub-bass region & doesn't hurt the the timbre of most instruments. Pressing a bit on the earcups improves the sub-bass too which suggest that experiments with better sealing earpads are in the order. All in all, a welcome addition to the planar family at my home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinsettawong Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 The headphones look nice. I'm a bit surprised to see that the open area of the stator is so less. Wachara C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabeer Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 Thats a very odd hole pattern on the drivers? :S seems random Beautiful phones though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mypasswordis Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 Probably same idea Fostex had with their oddly arranged hole patterns. There definitely isn't too much total hole area though. Have you tried playing around with the stepup trafo settings vs frequency response? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurubhai Posted June 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 (edited) I tried it but didn't find much difference in the FR. The L setting is loudest giving the sensitivity of roughly my Yamaha HP50 orthos. however there is some distortion of bass below 30 hz presumably due to clipping. I am no expert on back-electrets or on electrets for that matter. its my first foray into world of 'trets, may be someone with more experience in electret drivers can chime in. Edited June 17, 2011 by gurubhai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabeer Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 Probably same idea Fostex had with their oddly arranged hole patterns. There definitely isn't too much total hole area though. Have you tried playing around with the stepup trafo settings vs frequency response? Which Fostex are you reffering to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mypasswordis Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 wualta's pic actually makes the pattern look more regular than I remember, but it's certainly no grid. I'd check my own if I weren't so lazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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