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^ Damn, Miguel. Get back on those bikes! So, I'm officially insane. I'm next in line for possibly this bike, which, if I bought it, would definitely mean I'm not getting the Calfee. http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=119962 The size is right, but do I really need it other than the rare/cool/gorgeous bike factor? 650 wheels (this may be the deciding factor)? He said that the bike has about 15,000 miles on it, some scratches, emailing me pics, etc. I need to tell him by 8PM tonight if it's a go or not as I'm definitely not the only one interested. If I went this route, I'd have to take some time to build it up, sell the Gunnar, etc.

Noha, okay, that's a good avatar. Jeff, I'm still loving the zoo pics.

Noah, as a photographer, you better get yourself a kickass avatar quick. Wecome, and great pic of Fitzy.

Love mine. I don't know if the men's fit differently from the women's, but I needed a wide toe box and narrow heel, and was having a hard time until I tried the Sidis. I've plenty of room for my insoles and I can tighten or loosen the straps easily while riding, which I almost always do at least a couple times on longer rides. No hot spots, etc. I'd get another pair if/when these wear out.

^ nice. I got about half my hair cut off today. Feels a bit weird, but I like it.

Moonshine, glad you like the bike, and you'll get used to it. It took me a couple rides, but now I love riding in the drops. That's quite a tease. What's the scoop?

Thanks, Miguel, but I need to check it out myself before dropping $1100. I'm going on Monday evening. Maybe you should start cycling and ride with us

I appreciate all the help you and others are giving. I'm fine on the Gunnar. I had a moment of hand numbness a few months ago, and got a slight adjustment, and have been fine ever since, even at 80+ miles. I'm fine on the hoods, and the only question I ever have with the bars is if I should have gone with a 38 instead of 40 as sometimes I feel they would be perfect just a tad narrower for my shoulder width, but since I've not had a problem, I don't think about it often. Other than that, which really isn't a deal for me, everything is perfect, though I'm still messing around with saddles, and may just get another B17 and remember to keep it covered this time. I do sometimes push myself back on the seat, but not because I feel like I'm moving forward, but because I feel like I can get more power going when I do, if that makes any sense. I really can't describe it better, but since this has been my only bike, I don't have experience enough to know the right words.

Well, fricking nix the above seat tub angle. Just found my paperwork. Mine is 73.5. I also have a 22 setback, if that means anything to you numbers guys.

That was pretty amazing.

Well, I actually understand what you guys are saying, but it's not sinking in. My method will be to compare the two bikes, do a little measuring, bring a little step stool with me and see if I can sit on the bike, however awkwardly. If it feels like I could ride it, I'm buying it and taking it to my fitter, and he can worry about the numbers. Since I can ride comfortably for hours on my current set up, I'm assuming he got it right, and can hopefully make this right.

Happy birthday to you!

Okay, this is entirely unrelated, but I found it amusing in context of this site. http://miami.craigslist.org/brw/bik/3403966773.html

I have a setback post on my bike already. I don't know what that then means. I have an $800, $400 and $100 check in my wallet that I've forgotten to take to the bank for almost a year now, so by my logic, if I cash those, the bike and dinner are free. Worst case scenario is if it doesn't fit, I can sell the bike or steal the Dura Ace for my current bike and sell the rest, and still come out ahead. John is going with me on Monday so I'll maybe listen to his more cautionary way of doing things, but probably not.

Damnit. Why are all the numbers moving where they're not supposed to go? They look like little columns when I typed them. Who know who to work this posting stuff? Who picked the horrible mods around here anyway? Mike deletes whole threads. I don't even know how to copy and paste. Geeez.

On the Gunnar site, it looks like mine is in between their 50 and 52, but closest to the 52, so I took those specs and noted the differences in mine that I know. Calfee Stock Gunnar Size/ST 52/52 52/49 top tube length 53 53 (mine is 52) seat tube angle 74 75 set back 14.3 ? chainstay length 41.5 42.5 stand over height 77.4 75.9 b.b. drop 7 7.5 head tube angle 73 72 head tube length 11.3 11 (measured mine) wheel base 97.2 100.2 Other than st, ht, and stand over height, these numbers mean nothing to mean in terms that I could translate into "it would work" or not.

I have to find the paperwork on the Gunnar (zero idea where I put it) as it was a custom build, but I'm imagine it's extremely close to their stock frame, so I'll start there. The Calfee is their stock road geometry for a 52, which I can get from their website. BTW, I do have compact bars, but they're 40mm as are hers so I might not have to change those out.. He just emailed me that Monday evening is good. John, you still up for being my driver? I can drive to your place after work, but it will start hurting my ankle too much if I drive further. We can do dinner in Miami. My treat. Thanks, guys for your help.

Sorry, Haj. Definitely feel better.

It has no pedals and I have a giant semi-cast on my foot. I'm thinking I'm going to have to just eyeball it. Maybe bring my bike along with me for comparison (not exactly the best method, but it'll give me an idea), and take a risk. Hoping for a little more input from you guys that have had multiple bikes and/or more experience with fittings. My only experience is with the Gunnar and it's a perfect fit, though since I bought it, I've raised the seat almost two inches as I got more comfy on a road bike. It's not an aggressive geometry, but if it matters at all, I ride a lot in the drops and like feeling stretched out.

Chris, since my current stem is 90mm, would an 80 be too short? I don't think twitchy and I would be friends. I would use this bike for the 30-50 milers I will probably be doing more often on the weekend now that I'm not training for longer. I'd use the Gunnar and/or Kirk for longer rides.

Right, but too short a stem? That's my concern. John, for the price, if I can make it work, I'm going to get it. If I like it, I can sell the Gunnar, and have the Kirk be a tourer model. What are you doing tomorrow night or Monday night? I'm hoping to make a trip there, and can't drive that distance with my foot. I can get to Pomano, though, and I do owe you a birthday dinner....in Miami maybe? He wanted to meet Monday morning, which isn't happening, and I'm waiting to hear back if Sunday evening or Monday works.

More pics he emailed: EDIT: didn't realize I'd copied the wrong pic with the last one there, but I'll keep it. I was very happy that day. That's at mile 83 with my friends Phoenix and Kim. I look like I'm dressed for the arctic tundra in comparison, but I was comfy.

ctc: st=49, tt= 52 (effective). Not sure the stem length, but 12 cm to collar. I've had it 2 cm higher with comfort, but am still playing around/tweaking a bit. Headtube is 11cm. 90m stem.

Well, the seller and his wife (her bike) are out of town for the weekend, so maybe I can do something Monday or Tuesday evening. I did learn that his wife has my measurements except my legs are .5" longer. I suspect the bike is too big for her. I am willing to check it out, though.

I just emailed him asking to check it out, but my ankle can't drive to Miami right now. I can only do about a half hour driving. I asked if he could meet me. Otherwise, I'm going to try and hit you, John or anyone up for some help to get from Miami to Ft. Lauderdale-ish.