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The last three sentences of your post was some of the funniest (and truthful) shit I've seen in a long time. I just came across that thread today....and hustled on over here for the better perspective.

Oreck... Quiet, light, mine has been going great for 7 yrs+ now. Take it once a year to your dealer and they clean it inside and out, replace seals, clean the motor amarture, all for free. Plus I've never been a fan of bagless vacuums. They often introduce the same shit back into the air you're trying to pick up. Didn't see it mentioned, so just thought I'd throw it out there.

Then you heard them with the TP mod intact. Too bad you didn't get an opportunity to hear that specific pair in stock form. You'd then know what I'm talking about. In stock form, IMHO, that headphone was not listenable to. A muddied mess.

Did you listen to them without purrin's TP mod? I've heard his specific pair, with....and without the mod. Night and day difference....definitely in favor of the mod.

I was thinking more in terms of the mfg's shipping costs to their various dealers, although certainly that cost is buried into the end-user cost. By the way, still enjoying your B22 amp.

They have a preview section where they give you a heads up of products in-house that are under review. A full-blown review is probably forthcoming....at least I would certainly hope so. An all out assault on the headphone hi-end from companies such as Focal would be quite interesting. As fuel prices wander into ridiculous heights, speaker manufacturers might find some added profitability in shipping more cans than 200lb+ speakers.

In like Flynn...

Sure they add up....to my ears, and in my system. With your ears, in your system, you could definitely come up with a completely different set of conclusions. Since I was shat into this world with but a pair of human ears, and not a pair of microphones, I can't really comment on what the analyzer mics hear/heard. I've found graphs to be able to give you a possible glimpse into what you MIGHT hear yourself, but in the end it tells you how it measures....not necessarily how it sounds. You've got to listen to them in order to see if they do it for you or not. My $.02

First off, Whitney....and of course Purrin, thanks so much for allowing us to try these headphones out on our rigs. It's a rare opportunity that I wish came around a lot more often than it does. Below is a copy & paste from a post I just made at the "other place" regarding my initial but fairly confident findings regarding what I am hearing from the LCD-3. As usual, YMMV. The loaner I now have in house sounds veiled compared to my Rev 2's. There is a distinct lack of transparency with these, and I believe it stems from the overly ripe low end. On Wynton Marsalis' "Live at the Village Vanguard" disc #6, there is a track called 'Brother Veal'. It opens up with what I can only describe as just about the best recording of an upright acoustic bass I have ever heard. It is front and center, has depth, beautiful rendering of the resonant tone of the strings, digs down deep and tight as a nut. If the system is up to things, the musician will be right there in the room with you. Versus the LCD-2 rev 2, the LCD-3 portrays the bass sound as overly thick and lacking definition. The natural resonation of the instrument is audibly subdued and even the crowd interaction as the bassist rips through his solo is not nearly as pronounced and apparent. I went through all of my favorites list that I typically utilize for evaluations, and pardoning my pun....the song remained the same. Everything had a fine sheen to it, less of a connection with the music, everything sounding a bit rounded off and slightly lacking of the rawness of certain instruments such as the human voice, and especially the raw edge of horns such as trumpets and the seductive smokiness of a tenor sax. After about a 3 hour listening session with a few breaks thrown in, I replaced the LCD-3's with my pair of Rev 2's....and all the magic that I so crave, returned in spades. Needless to say this particular LCD-3 is a GREAT disappointment to me. It is unclear whether or not the only thing keeping this headphone from performing at the level I had expected is the thickening up of the bass region, which in my mind is intruding upon everything above its spectrum. About the only things I'd say it has over the rev 2 is that it is more comfortable to wear long-term due to the much softer ear cups, and the different angling of the connectors helps to keep the cables off of your chest. If what I am hearing is the result of poor quality control, and there are LCD-3's out there giving a much different sonic presentation, then they apparently need a tighter rein on things at Audeze. My playback system from soup to nuts was as follows: Source: HP Elitebook 8460P Core i7 2620M @ 3.4ghz 8MB, 160GB SSD (running in battery mode) Player: JPLAY in FullScale Hibernation mode DAC: Meitner MA-1 (plugged into an Acoustic Revive RTP-2 Ultimate conditioner w/Tel Wire power cord) Amplifiers: VTL IT-85 (single-ended), 4ch Beta 22 (balanced) (both amps plugged straight into the wall with LessLoss DFPC Sig cords) Headphones: LCD-2 rev 2, LCD-3 (both with Q-Audio cable and Q-Audio 1/4" to XLR adapter for use with b22 amps.) USB cable: Acoustic Revive 1.0PL Interconnects: Wireworld Platinum Eclipse 6 (rca), Nordost Heimdall (XLR) Music used to evaluate included: Erich Kunzel & the Cincinnati Pops 'Mancini's Greatest Hits Joshua Redman Quartet 'Spirit of the Moment, Live at the Village Vanguard' Fred Hersch Trio 'The Fred Hersch Trio Plays' Wynton Marsalis Septet 'Live at the Village Vanguard' Buddy Guy 'A Tribute to Stevie Ray Vaughan' Lyle Lovett 'Joshua Judges Ruth' Harry Belafonte 'Belafonte Returns to Carnegie Hall' Frank Sinatra 'Sings for only the Lonely' Carmen McRae 'The Great American Songbook, Live at Donte's' John Hammond 'Rough & Tough' (24/96khz) Richard Thompson 'Folk, Live from Mountain Stage' (24/96khz) Rani Arbo 'Cocktail Swing' (24/96khz) Brooks Williams 'Hundred Year Old Shadow' (24/96khz) Trondheim Solistene 'Divertimenti' (24/192khz) All music in uncompressed WAV format.

Purrin....I'd love to take a listen to them if I'm not too late. I'm in Pacifica. Thanks, Bob

Great pics! Thanks for sharing 'em.