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I presume the B22 belongs to the zero ohm fraction. If they behave similar to the DT880'600, things will remain unobtrusive. If they have a more significant reaction on resistances, they'll propably sound a bit thinner & colder than intended by Beyer. All a question of taste and listening habits finally.
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I'm really not the amps- and cable geek, but a typical low ohm AT or Gradessandro in a high ohm plug comes close to unlistenable for me personally. But my DT880'250 sounds lovely there, whereas the DT880'600 just doesn't care much about resistances...
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In the eyes of audiophile geeks like us with our big balls gear it's certainly nonsense. But I think the main part of nowaday's consumers still plugs things into cheap high ohm integrated amps - and there, a higher ohm design makes indeed sense.
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I quite liked my DT880'250 with a 150 ohm resistor, but its synergy with the 600 ohm systems is negligible IMO.
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Including the ones I had previously: MS Pro Ulti DT880'600 (closed back) CD3K PK1 K271 MS1K DT880'2003 DT880'2005 MS2i ANC7 DT531 A900 DT770'2003 DT990 old KSC75, PP, EP630 & alike HD595 that Vivanco ...thing
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Don't know, maybe I'm the monotonous & introspective type. I must give in though that there's a lot of awful D&B fluent, and even good stuff (e.g. Spring Heel Jack or Boymerang) sounds very questionable with approx. 85% of all existing cans. It definetely does sound good with a DT880'600, I can tell you!
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I seem to have plunged into the oh-yeah-oh-babe crowd , no wonder Beyer's fluffy musicality is an also-ran here. I like synthesizers. Always did. Vice versa, I find electrical guitars, longhaired singers and the rock&roll cliche (strophe-refrain-strophe-refrain-strophe-refrain ) quite annoying meanwhile.
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Stumbled in here yesterday, I must say the discussion quite differs from the usual "uh, can't wait". My 2 cents: I principally agree to the statement that the Beyers we have known until now aren't exactly technically advanced peaces of gear that are to be adored in the way of a W5K or so. Their strength is rather to be found in the field of sheer musicality, but their genre bandwidth is too restricted to have a large discipleship. Rock, Jazz & Classical only work acceptably IMO, but Ambient, Drum & Bass or IDM is quite a worthwhile experience with most "better" Beyers. I didn't like the HD800 and most e-stats due to lacking musicality, so if the T1 really turns out to be a super-high-res DT880'600 with bass worth mentioning, that's a highender of my liking.
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A work-to-rule deep bass presentation (or any other built-in issue) won't be cured by amplification or other gearitis. The 3-5% a good amp will "dig" are almost neglectable IMO.
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Totally correct. But even more "demanding" gear sounds great as long as the plug provides low ohm feeding and has enough juice. That semi-religious usage of all those $$$ amps has a lot to with male "big balls approach" and not so much with pure necessity IMO. Nothing wrong about that though. When I was a young guy, I had a loud and complicated italian big balls motorcycle instead of something reliable and less spectacular from Japan. It gave me the right feeling that I was "someone", and so I was.
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Distancers & Jumbopads don't work with the MS2i (nor with Grados). The nicest modification I experienced for the MS2i was a set of K270 velours pads glued onto reversed 414s (or was it comfies? Don't remember...). Very comfortable, better soundscape and (best of all) tamed highs.
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If you do the MS1K mod, you keep the PRaT but get that extra deep bass layer you long for, and a K701ish soundscape. Possible downsides (depends from taste) are the slightly increased highs. And costs & effort, of course. The perfect headphone does not exist anyway. Even the $$$ candidates I tried were just ordinary fons with strengths and flaws.
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...and here I am. IMO the MS Pro is a rather weak performer when it goes to the deep bass section, it's a typical Gradessandro with the usual punchy kickbass. Differences to MS1: Almost none on 1st time listening, but you soon realize that it has monstrous PRaT, blackness and detailling abilties compared to its small brother. The mids also have a bit more juice, good for concentrated listening of acoustical stuff, bad for casual listening of nonacoustical stuff. In difference to what blackmore thinks I am not exactly a fanboy of the stock MS Pro. But without hesitating I sold my precioussss CD3K to get a MS Pro of my own after we found out that the MS1000 mod converts it into the can I have dreamed of for years (a sort of grado'ed K701 or so).
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fatigue from Beyer DT990s - do I need a new amp or different cans?
nickchen replied to acidbasement's topic in Headphones
Prominent highs can be fatiguing if you are sensitive. I personally regard "curing" by means of amplification as voodoo. You better equip yourself with smoother cans.