nickchen

Ok...

I presume the B22 belongs to the zero ohm fraction. If they behave similar to the DT880'600, things will remain unobtrusive. If they have a more significant reaction on resistances, they'll propably sound a bit thinner & colder than intended by Beyer. All a question of taste and listening habits finally.

I'm really not the amps- and cable geek, but a typical low ohm AT or Gradessandro in a high ohm plug comes close to unlistenable for me personally. But my DT880'250 sounds lovely there, whereas the DT880'600 just doesn't care much about resistances...

In the eyes of audiophile geeks like us with our big balls gear it's certainly nonsense. But I think the main part of nowaday's consumers still plugs things into cheap high ohm integrated amps - and there, a higher ohm design makes indeed sense.

I quite liked my DT880'250 with a 150 ohm resistor, but its synergy with the 600 ohm systems is negligible IMO.

Including the ones I had previously: MS Pro Ulti DT880'600 (closed back) CD3K PK1 K271 MS1K DT880'2003 DT880'2005 MS2i ANC7 DT531 A900 DT770'2003 DT990 old KSC75, PP, EP630 & alike HD595 that Vivanco ...thing

Don't know, maybe I'm the monotonous & introspective type. I must give in though that there's a lot of awful D&B fluent, and even good stuff (e.g. Spring Heel Jack or Boymerang) sounds very questionable with approx. 85% of all existing cans. It definetely does sound good with a DT880'600, I can tell you!

I seem to have plunged into the oh-yeah-oh-babe crowd , no wonder Beyer's fluffy musicality is an also-ran here. I like synthesizers. Always did. Vice versa, I find electrical guitars, longhaired singers and the rock&roll cliche (strophe-refrain-strophe-refrain-strophe-refrain ) quite annoying meanwhile.

Stumbled in here yesterday, I must say the discussion quite differs from the usual "uh, can't wait". My 2 cents: I principally agree to the statement that the Beyers we have known until now aren't exactly technically advanced peaces of gear that are to be adored in the way of a W5K or so. Their strength is rather to be found in the field of sheer musicality, but their genre bandwidth is too restricted to have a large discipleship. Rock, Jazz & Classical only work acceptably IMO, but Ambient, Drum & Bass or IDM is quite a worthwhile experience with most "better" Beyers. I didn't like the HD800 and most e-stats due to lacking musicality, so if the T1 really turns out to be a super-high-res DT880'600 with bass worth mentioning, that's a highender of my liking.

A work-to-rule deep bass presentation (or any other built-in issue) won't be cured by amplification or other gearitis. The 3-5% a good amp will "dig" are almost neglectable IMO.

Totally correct. But even more "demanding" gear sounds great as long as the plug provides low ohm feeding and has enough juice. That semi-religious usage of all those $$$ amps has a lot to with male "big balls approach" and not so much with pure necessity IMO. Nothing wrong about that though. When I was a young guy, I had a loud and complicated italian big balls motorcycle instead of something reliable and less spectacular from Japan. It gave me the right feeling that I was "someone", and so I was.

Distancers & Jumbopads don't work with the MS2i (nor with Grados). The nicest modification I experienced for the MS2i was a set of K270 velours pads glued onto reversed 414s (or was it comfies? Don't remember...). Very comfortable, better soundscape and (best of all) tamed highs.

If you do the MS1K mod, you keep the PRaT but get that extra deep bass layer you long for, and a K701ish soundscape. Possible downsides (depends from taste) are the slightly increased highs. And costs & effort, of course. The perfect headphone does not exist anyway. Even the $$$ candidates I tried were just ordinary fons with strengths and flaws.

...and here I am. IMO the MS Pro is a rather weak performer when it goes to the deep bass section, it's a typical Gradessandro with the usual punchy kickbass. Differences to MS1: Almost none on 1st time listening, but you soon realize that it has monstrous PRaT, blackness and detailling abilties compared to its small brother. The mids also have a bit more juice, good for concentrated listening of acoustical stuff, bad for casual listening of nonacoustical stuff. In difference to what blackmore thinks I am not exactly a fanboy of the stock MS Pro. But without hesitating I sold my precioussss CD3K to get a MS Pro of my own after we found out that the MS1000 mod converts it into the can I have dreamed of for years (a sort of grado'ed K701 or so).

Prominent highs can be fatiguing if you are sensitive. I personally regard "curing" by means of amplification as voodoo. You better equip yourself with smoother cans.