Tried to think of an anime show that you might like Steve, I honestly think that the homo-erotic anime porn in Japan (yaoi) often referred to as 'boys love' is more for women. There are some non ecchi shows that contain gay men that are not effeminate or flamboyant/crossdressing, but they are usually very macho over the top too. On the other hand, not many anime characters are normal at all outside of some school days anime. Theres always straight men though. Japanese male characters with appeal always seem to be extremely tall and skinny with feminine looks. The girls usually seem to have more on their bones even then them. Anime has got to be the closest thing to a romance novel I've gotten myself involved it, cool since I actually enjoy some romantic comedy. I'm going to stop now and leave anything else for the anime thread. I don't think I'm an expert on erotic anime anyway, there is some seriously freaky shit in some of those I understand.