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Death By Carbs - Bread and Dough Making

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Bread #2 - Michael Pollan version of tartine loaf

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Didn't get the rise we wanted. But tasty good.

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  • New Shape - new Method. Testing out Batards (oval) - and baking with steam (Using cast iron and lava rocks to create a lot of steam - like a sauna) Results are coming along...  This is

  • Still working with my non-birth year starter... I am baking two loaves - twice a week these days - and sharing at work. -- This is one I liked - and had good results.         Oat Porridge

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Morning bread

Tarine barley porridge loaf

Good bake. Could use a bit of salt and a little more sour tang.

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  • 1 month later...

New mix...

 

mix grams 

rye 200

slept 100

whole 200

AP 500

h20 850

leaven 200

salt 35    

 

bake:

covered 500 20 min

covered 450 10 min

uncover 25min

 

M Marks the Loaf (just baking the second loaf)

 

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Wow, looks amazing!

 

What's "slept 100" ?

  • 3 weeks later...

Old mix - 

 

Mix grams 

whole 100

AP 900

h20 750

leaven 200

salt 28    

 

bake:

covered 500 20 min

covered 450 10 min

uncover 25min

 

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and crumb

 

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Second loaf stuck to the proofing towel - hence the roman helmet...look...  and didn't rise much.

 

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But the crumb was good and it was tasty...

 

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I guess you fixed the problem with the big holes Mikey! Looks great.

It is my homage to the dog... 

 

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but there is a scary creature that it reminds me of now... (could not find it)

 

That is the hope Al - went back to basics, and then will try different things to see what might bring them back.. 

 

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Wow. Amazing loaves of gluten awesome. :)

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Wow, so thin and crispy.  Do they burn pretty easily, so you have to watch them like a hawk when baking?

yep ... about first 9 minutes you are safe - no need to check - but after that they can burn at anytime - I bake at about 425-450

  • 3 weeks later...

First Bake in new house and new oven... -- so far so good...

 

Mix - grams 

Oat Flour - 250

whole wheat - 250

All Purpose - 500

h20 - 750

leaven - 200

salt - 30

 

bake:

covered 500 20 min

covered 450 10 min

uncover 20 min

 

 

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(ed - like the crumb too) 

 

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  • 4 weeks later...

Late Bake -

 

Trying some longer fermentation and rise times. This with a larger 650g of flour rye bread.  With the higher Hydration may need a little bit longer bake to get some of the water out and to cook the bigger loaf. 

 

Mix - grams 

Rye Flour - 65g

whole wheat - 195g

All Purpose - 390g

h20 - 520g

leaven - 100g

salt - 16g

 

bake:

covered 500 20 min

covered 450 20 min

uncover 15 min

 

I like the results - will look forward to when it is cooler.

 

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Thanks Al,  I really liked that one - The longer fermentation time gave it a lovely sour tang. 

 

I made two more from the leftover leaven.  One worked out and the other was much more of an experiment. 

 

I was using new flour so I wanted to make a standard loaf to test how it does (this is with Red Mill)

 

Mix - grams 

whole wheat - 60g

All Purpose - 540g

h20 - 450g

leaven - 100g

salt - 15g

 

bake:

covered 500 20 min

covered 450 20 min

uncover 15 min

 

Since it had super long fermentation of the leaven (almost 24 hours) and an overnight (outside) proof of the final dough, it developed a lot of flavor from a basic white loaf.

 

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With longer rise times, I often get a collapsed loaf.  Am I not using enough salt, too much or something else?

I don't think that it can be a result of too much salt. If you are using commercial yeast, I think that this is a common issue. They are so active that they eat up all the food and the loaf can collapse, if the gluten structure is not strong (salt can help that too). More salt will help slow down the proofing process so that you can get a longer rise. With the wild yeast that I am using it takes a long time to get going anyway. So I would say more salt is your friend. 

With longer rise times, I often get a collapsed loaf.  Am I not using enough salt, too much or something else?

 

It's likely rising too much so not enough salt.  The golden rule is 30gr per 1L of water.  You can go up to 40gr for more flavor but also slower rise time. 

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