humanflyz Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/25/arts/music/25tomm.html?pagewanted=1&ref=music Every time I read an article in a mainstream media about sound quality, it inevitably gets the whole thing wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hungrych Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 That is stupid. The people who don't care about the sound quality of their iPod don't care about sound quality anyway. If anything DAP's have increased the amount of audiophiles because of the high-end larger headphone market... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhjazz Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 TOMMASINI is crazy. If the guy could pick a side, that would be nice. He first says how he has vinyl, which is good, then says how they are hardly a luxurious sonic experience. WTF? He also mentions later that vinyl is "making a comebacK". What kind of useless crap is that? What person who enjoys music doesn't already know that? Then on to on again off again about digital. Seriously. Has this guy ever compared the two? I can confirm he has not just by reading. The whole article is just like vomit: regurgitated crap that should not be digested. What a fool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaloS Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 ... He also mentions later that vinyl is "making a comebacK". What kind of useless crap is that? What person who enjoys music doesn't already know that? ... Not everyone needs purity to enjoy music... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph0rk Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 Typical whining about how the sky is falling and those darn kids just don't get it anymore. Maybe they said the same stuff about cassettes and eight-tracks, I just wasn't listening. I am much more concerned over the slashing of music education in public schools and the like, but that's me. Bah, I need my coffee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slwiser Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 This are still attempting to shape public opinion. So read and be brain washed. It is much like a nation's tax policy, it really isn't about revenue but public policy shaping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsborken Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 Good question but it is not surprising they did so. The media botches a lot more than just the state of Hi-Fi. The majority of people listening to music don't listen; they multitask their listening along with workouts, driving, work, studying, posting to websites etc. In those environments why would perfect reproduction be a requirement to the majority of consumers? If the majority of people can't sit down to read a book uninterrupted why would music be any different to the masses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
granodemostasa Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 at least they're trying. i'm probably hoping that some of the time's readership look at that and at least consider the possibility of high fidelity. yea he got it wrong, but for a niche concern, any news is good news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhjazz Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 The majority of people listening to music don't listen; they multitask their listening along with workouts, driving, work, studying, posting to websitesYikes! I forgot about that. I worked with someone who believed he loved music, but he rarely paid any attention to it, save for the loud bits. Oy. Yep. I agree with you. Sad news. \ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Yikes! I forgot about that. I worked with someone who believed he loved music, but he rarely paid any attention to it, save for the loud bits. Oy. Yep. I agree with you. Sad news. \ It's not sad to listen to music while doing other things. What's sad is only having music in your life when you have time for music exclusively. Music IS life. You don't need to concentrate on music all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph0rk Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 It's not sad to listen to music while doing other things. What's sad is only having music in your life when you have time for music exclusively. Music IS life. You don't need to concentrate on music all the time. Yee haw. Thats what office systems are for, right? And portables, and bedrooms, and speakers that look like rocks... It can't be the soundtrack if the hero isn't doing anything while it plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBLoudG20 Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 It's not sad to listen to music while doing other things. What's sad is only having music in your life when you have time for music exclusively. Music IS life. You don't need to concentrate on music all the time. Exactly. Half my listening time is when I am at the computer. What the hell is so important on here that I can't pay attention to music anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsborken Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Exactly. Half my listening time is when I am at the computer. What the hell is so important on here that I can't pay attention to music anyway? The point was that the masses rarely (if ever) listen to music to the exclusion of other activities. If you aren't actively listening an ipod/imod, atv, etc. is fine for the task--who needs audiophile grade components for that? An occasional sour note isn't much different than a door slamming/AC kicking on/dog barking/IM message/phone call. One can speed-read through a literary work but doing so overlooks the nuances. I listen at work and get interrupted all day by co-workers Using audiophile grade components in that environment would be a waste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBLoudG20 Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 To an extent I agree with you, but on the same regard, one does not have to give 100% attention to the music to appreciate the added fidelity. I very rarely ever JUST listen to music, but I can sure tell when a tube is going bad, and I can enjoy the sound of my VTG. Your argument states that as I am sitting here typing, with my VTG on my head.. I will not be able to enjoy the sound fomr my headphones, so I should just be using the onboard sound to some v6's? I agree that maybe an imod is overkill if the user is not even pauing attention to music. However, who are you to say that as I am walking around, I am not actively listening? Because I will hear the occasional bus drive by, I should not use high quality gear? Maybe you should stop preaching about what people should spend their money on, and worry about your own self. You have found a happy medium for your listening habits, leave it at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsborken Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Maybe you should stop preaching about what people should spend their money on, and worry about your own self. You have found a happy medium for your listening habits, leave it at that. My intent was not to instruct how you or anyone else should listen to music. Everyone should do whatever makes them happy. I offered up a comment on SQ and the masses and somehow people read into it that I feel active listening is the one true way to listen to music. WTF, nowhere did I preach about what people should spend their money on. You should reread my posts with a clear mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph0rk Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 The majority of people listening to music don't listen; they multitask their listening along with workouts, driving, work, studying, posting to websites etc. In those environments why would perfect reproduction be a requirement to the majority of consumers? If the majority of people can't sit down to read a book uninterrupted why would music be any different to the masses? Seemed a bit preachy to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsborken Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Seemed a bit preachy to me. No, I distinctly remember that I wasn't wearing a collar when I wrote that. Sorry for your thin skin It's just a personal observation over time regarding people's listening habits. YMMV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph0rk Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 No, I distinctly remember that I wasn't wearing a collar when I wrote that. Sorry for your thin skin It's just a personal observation over time regarding people's listening habits. YMMV. my mileage -does- vary, which is why I think you're full of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 I think he's full of it because the story changed. He said it was sad a coworker listened to music while he did other things. Something in that is sad, but it's not the coworker who likes music... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsborken Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 I think bhjazz brought up the sad coworker bit. I just said I got interrupted by co-workers as I listen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsborken Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 my mileage -does- vary, which is why I think you're full of it. Such originality. Did you cut/paste that all by yourself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph0rk Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 I made it, but thanks for playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 I think bhjazz brought up the sad coworker bit. I just said I got interrupted by co-workers as I listen. My bad, I get all you preachy newbies confused in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsborken Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 My bad, I get all you preachy newbies confused in this thread. hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhjazz Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 my comments have gone horribly wrong.... No, I often do other things while listening to music. More now than even just a few years back. I can definitely set a soundtrack to most any task; my previous life as a dj makes it easy. back to SQ. Every time I read an article in a mainstream media about sound quality, it inevitably gets the whole thing wrong. I just wish they would try to teach someone who likes music that there might be more to it than just the sound of an iPod with it's extra-sepcial white headphones. if you want that sort of thing. if you enjoy/dont enjoy sound quality if you listen with dedication or with no focus at all on your treadmill aw crap...you guys are gonna get me to drinkin again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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