HiWire Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/high-end-pc-audio,3733-19.html I'll be in the funny pictures thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadtonowhere08 Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 (edited) Typical Tom's. Motherboard CODECs have made great strides in the last 5-10 years, but to compare one to a DAC2 and call it even? As Ken36 would say: "Good Stuff." Edited February 27, 2014 by roadtonowhere08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Lots of people in team source dead fucking last Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crappyjones123 Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Someone called? I have had a decent source for the past year or so though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiWire Posted February 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 (edited) I, for one, welcome our new Realtek overlords. Coworker: "Is that a CD player?" Edited February 27, 2014 by HiWire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aardvark baguette Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 listen to a new dac for a month, then remove it. then it shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postjack Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 I'm in team digital source dead last, but I still think it's important. Just not nearly as important as speakers/room or headphones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiWire Posted February 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 (edited) My dad used to tell me that all CD players sounded the same, but then I went around and auditioned CD players for about 5 years, starting with consumer-grade stuff like my dad's Technics carousel all the way up to a 4-box dCS Paganini system. Obviously, they weren't all connected to the same amplifiers and loudspeakers, but I heard a lot of differences. I ended up with the Arcam FMJ CD36 and I've got my eye on the Oppo BDP-105D for HDCD and SACD playback – I think I can use it as a DAC via USB input. My amplification is pretty solid: Arcam C31 preamp and two Arcam P1 monoblocs, so the last big jump is loudspeakers for now. Also, I like Schiit Audio's idea of keeping their bases covered with the Loki. If DSD takes off, they can incorporate the circuitry in the Bifrost or another DAC/Amp. Oppo has also added DSD decoding to their newer players. Edited February 27, 2014 by HiWire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Yes, you can use the Oppo 105D as a USB DAC. I'm in team digital source dead last, but I still think it's important. Just not nearly as important as speakers/room or headphones. Don't you have a Rega CD player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postjack Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Yes, you can use the Oppo 105D as a USB DAC. Don't you have a Rega CD player? Yup got an Apollo. Love it. Just got a buffalo DAC as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Yeah, that's not exactly slackin' in the digital source department. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postjack Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Yeah, that's not exactly slackin' in the digital source department. oh yeah, definitely. I definitely disagree with the article in the OP. All I mean is if you start with a bad pair of headphones, or a bad speaker, or a room inappropriate for a speaker, no digital source is going to fix that. Is there a difference between motherboard audio and a rega apollo? Hell yeah. But the increase in performance you get going from motherboard audio > apollo is nowhere near the level you get going from say a KSC75 to an HD800. Thats all I'm saying. But once you get to that level of high quality transducers, then a better digital source will certainly make a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 oh yeah, definitely. I definitely disagree with the article in the OP. All I mean is if you start with a bad pair of headphones, or a bad speaker, or a room inappropriate for a speaker, no digital source is going to fix that. Is there a difference between motherboard audio and a rega apollo? Hell yeah. But the increase in performance you get going from motherboard audio > apollo is nowhere near the level you get going from say a KSC75 to an HD800. Thats all I'm saying. But once you get to that level of high quality transducers, then a better digital source will certainly make a difference. Oh, okay, when you put it like that, team source dead fucking last actually sounds ( ) kinda enticing. I still prefer my team. What team is that, Dusty? Team Your System is Only as Strong as its Weakest Link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexicanDragon Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 I would rather listen to KSC-75s than HD800s. **BRENT** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 YOU are the weakest link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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