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and now for something completely different part 3

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Finished the right channel today. Feedback as suggested by Justin. Bias servo as suggested by Kevin.

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Red smoke – Super Symmetrical mode.

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Green smoke  –  Zero Feedback mode.

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    A CFA2 balanced. Finished this a whiles back.

  • Been working on this for a looong time. CFA3 from scratch mixed smd/thru-hole design. Currently assembled with NOS Toshiba 2SC3381/2SA1349 inputs, NOS MPSW TO-92L thru-hole transistors and bcxxx for t

  • First 2 chassis just arrived. Getting it tested!    

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i habe some current mirror amplifier ss/zf version 1.21 here that i like to use for the amp build.

may i ask about two points on the underside of the board (orange marked) look liks place for a jumper on the front siede the are between the two 82ohm resistors. are they for jumper and/or what are they used for. thx

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reserved for the SMD MLCC 47uF Caps

I used Thru-hole ones

thank ang728 for the info, then im ready to order parts 🙂

  • 3 weeks later...

finished my cfa3 this week, thanks kevin gilmore for the desing and the support from the forum members.

running on +-30v with moderat bias, changed the gain resistors to 3.2k for lower gain.

needed some 3d printed parts so that all fit fine, a cfa3 in a quad 405 chase. no pot this time, i use a dac with volume control or a preamp.

after all amps i build i think the best solution for a 1 case build ist mounting the trafos outside in vertical position, absolut no magnetic hum inducted. i also added grain oriented metal band around the trafos inside the trafo cases.

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Nice! So the trafo is in this box not in an outer case. Would be nice a picture from the front too.

3 hours ago, judo said:

Nice! So the trafo is in this box not in an outer case. Would be nice a picture from the front too.

The first picture he posted was from the front.
Quad 405 cases have the sink on the front 🙂 

I have built a 405 ages ago then let's see the back🙂

  • 1 month later...

I am working on a CFA3 build where the original THAT340 input devices have been changed to a JFET input pair.

For a rough simulation I used these models:

.model 2SJ103 PJF VTO=-1.5 BETA=10m LAMBDA=0.01 RD=20 RS=20 CGS=50p CGD=45p IS=10p

.model 2SK246 NJF(Beta=2.5m Vto=-1.5 Is=1e-14 Cgd=4p Cgs=5p)

This is only intended as an input-impedance / loading check, not a final device-accurate distortion simulation.

With the current SS input/feedback network:

R24/R26 = 5k

R44/R49 = 50k

C9/C10 = 20p

I get approximately:

SS mode input impedance: ~11.7k ohm per phase at 1 kHz

ZF mode input impedance: ~50k ohm per phase at 1 kHz

So even though the input devices are JFETs, the SS mode input impedance is still relatively low because of the surrounding SS input/feedback network.

The practical concern is that I changed the volume control from 10k to 50k. With a 50k attenuator, the source impedance around mid attenuation can be much higher than with a 10k control. That seems like it can load/interact with the ~11.7k SS-mode input impedance, while ZF mode is much less affected.

I am considering scaling the SS input/feedback network values upward while keeping the same approximate ratio and compensation time constant.

Current:

R24/R26 = 5k

R44/R49 = 50k

C9/C10 = 20p

Conservative option:

R24/R26 = 10k

R44/R49 = 100k

C9/C10 = 10p

Simulation:

SS input impedance rises to ~20.2k per phase

SS gain changes from about 15.0 dB to 14.7 dB

More aggressive option:

R24/R26 = 15k

R44/R49 = 150k

C9/C10 = 6.8p

Simulation:

SS input impedance rises to ~26.6k per phase

SS gain changes to about 14.5 dB

The idea is to reduce the current drawn from the volume control and raise the effective SS-mode input impedance, without changing the low-frequency feedback/input ratio too much.

Has anyone tried this on a JFET-input CFA3, especially with a 50k volume control?

Does scaling R24/R26 and R44/R49 like this seem reasonable, or is there a known preferred value set for JFET-input builds?

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