^^Dream on. They suck.

Why do they even release crappy headphones at this point? Don't they have someone with ears there that can say what tyll just said?

T70 is definitely way better than, DT770/880/990. I hated these craps and I promised myself that I'd never touched Beyer anymore but T70 actually changed my opinion about Beyerdynamic's sound but I'm sure some would still hate them

Sounded bright and tizzy to me.

Here's the measurements: http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/BeyerdynamicT70250Ohm.pdf

I'll pick some up from HeadRoom and listen again, though.

My other favourite headphone is K701, no kidding

My other favourite headphone is K701, no kidding

The Q701 is still a legit headphone, IMHO. A tad bass shy for sure, bt once well broken in (HA!) sounds quite good.

I think the K701 isn't as bad as people make it out to be. It actually sounds pretty good out of the WA5LE.

Yikes, that's quite a treble peak on the T70. Not much initial overshoot on the 30hz square wave - is it the 300hz square wave that's more indicative of brightness? Or am I completely wrong? What's the overshoot an indication of in mechanical terms, as in diaphragm behavior?

Man, not having the right technical background for any of this puts me at such a massive disadvantage. Here's a fairly important question: if I wanted to self-educate when it comes to electrical engineering basics and as it relates to audio - where should I start?

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Stay tuned...

I think the K701 isn't as bad as people make it out to be. It actually sounds pretty good out of the WA5LE.

I feel as you do and why I had a K701 re-cabled by Alex. Kept that combo one for about 4 years.

Man, I tell ya, they're both good. M-80 review tomorrow I think. At this point, I'd probably prefer the M-80/V-80 ... but of course, it's because I've got sick custom ones.

Thanks, just read your review on InnerFidelity plus the Top 10 Gift Guide. Does the LP2 sound like the M-80/V-80, just bassier? And does the B&W P5 sound better than the M-80/V-80?

Your site is very informative, much more info there than on Head-Fi.

The P5 isn't about good sound. It's about cigars and driving shoes.

I think the K701 isn't as bad as people make it out to be. It actually sounds pretty good out of the WA5LE.

I feel as you do and why I had a K701 re-cabled by Alex. Kept that combo one for about 4 years.

The K701 has it's strengths. Call me crazy, but I preferred the slightly mellower sound of the K601 and sold off the 7s. Then again I think it's been pretty much the same headphone from the K400 on

& still digging the DT1350 bass. The M80s sounded bloated in comparison.

& still digging the DT1350 bass. The M80s sounded bloated in comparison.

The M80s sounded bloated in comparison.

Err.., I had tried the Crossfade LPs, not the M80s.

Edited December 22, 201114 yr by anetode

Err.., I had tried the Crossfade LPs, not the M80s.

I wondered wtf you were talking about.

Horrible metallic sound, very hard on ears. Perhaps somewere around 6-8k. Bass is non-existent, regardless of how I wear them. Perhaps on a bigger head. Going back. Horrible headphones. Can't for the life of me understand the thrill about these, except for perhaps some of the mechanics.

Yer not getting them on right. Bend the headband around til it seal properly.

Edited January 3, 201214 yr by Tyll Hertsens

When you press them against your ears they will create somewhat of a seal and sound much better. You're basically going to have to find a way to retain that exact same sound by way of adjusting the headband, I didn't have to bend mine though.

Yup, that was my beef with them, with the small amount of time I spent with them - the sound changed way too much depending on their position on my head.

I think the main issue with these is that they need to be set towards the back of your ears a bit more than one might expect. Possibly more than what seems "natural" for lack of a better word. Once you find that sweet spot, the bass is full and deep and the mids come back into the picture. Otherwise, the sound is really uneven.

A very fussy headphone for positioning, but, once you find the right spot, they reward nicely. At least that has been my experience.

Just in, found the right fit and seal is great. This headphone's sound quality is on par with the HD250 II, especially on the low end response. I am impressed...