Question is, without a good amp, why bother, though you (Nate) can build a KGSS for ~$500, or a BH for ~$1100, or so. Oh, I know there are cheaper amp options, like a SRM-T1, or one of the energizers, but that would be my choice.

It's really just something that I'm toying with and probably shouldn't even be considering. I'm certainly not looking to take on another build any time soon, I'm up to my eyeballs in crap as it is. Thanks for the input though and it certainly applies to more than my situation.

that's only a little more than half the guys going.....

go figure.....

Bunch of lazy bastards, not shocking at all.

Thanks for the effort, man.

Well someone just posted a host of Lambda gear FS on HF, anyone care to make a recommendation for those of us thinking about sampling stats?

Don't care if it's faster since it's fugly.

yeah, but the expensive ones are pretty.

Yeah, but seriously, power cords are about the easiest thing to make. I refuse to make mine pretty though, too much effort.

I too am a fan of free stuff, the risk reward ratio just doesn't get any better.

You're searching a little hard to find controversy there. 99% of Head-Fi reads your post and looks like this.

And the 1% that can read and comprehend what you're saying doesn't care because they already knew it. Plenty of manufacturers use a higher gain to give the perception that their amp has more power or to accommodate low gain sources more easily. Most ignorant users get concerned if they have to turn the volume pot up more than half way.

Appears mother Russia tried to shut me down:

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?p=3413563#post3413563

"end speculation"

WTF? My question hasn't been answered, fired back and it appears I'm now getting ignored as it was infact a valid question/point to be made present and answered.

Nice one...

Not when used by Joy, but maybe when used by you?

Amen, to the Joy part that is.

No, Hagerman's 1/2 kits aren't actually anything close to half of what you need. This amp is supposed to cost hundreds to build. I wouldn't be surprised if the kit only contains the boards, chassis, and manual. That is usually what his 1/2 kits entail.

You are correct, the half/kit nomenclature is somewhat of a misnomer since it's usually not much more than the pcb. And knowing that I'd have a hard time shelling out $99 for a pcb but when he includes a chassis he usually doesn't call it a half/kit, like I mentioned above. Only time will tell and it's definitely worth watching and not speculating further.

I'm with JB, I can't imagine the half-kit containing much at $99, certainly none of the trafos. In fact it's sort of weird that he's referring to it as a half kit, I'm surprised he isn't making it a half-box like the Cornet. That'd actually be a decent deal at $99.

Sorry to hear you're not going to make it JB.

And Haj, I hear you, if I don't get the mini32 done I don't know what I'll do. I'm not going to waste the time of bringing the old Millett Hybrid down with the Hertsens. I think if you don't have the Single Power by then you should set up your rig and put down a piece of paper that says "Insert Long Overdue Single Power Amp Here".

I should be there. Panel fabrication for the mini32 is almost complete so I actually have an amp to bring.

Sweet! Can't wait to see what it looks like when it's finished.

Sanding this....

pcb stuffing for the balanced mini3 is complete. Wiring and casework to commence tomorrow night.

Price of the new Mk2 at elusivedisc is the same as the old 007, which is listed at $2,000.

Wonder if that'll drive used prices up or down. I'm sure anyone selling a pair will make claims that the new model is inferior blah blah and the other side will say the opposite. Drama ftw.

you ever going to get those custom molds Nate?

I'd really like to but right now I've just got so much going on that I can't deal with trying to coordinate getting molds taken, shipping the headphones off, etc., etc.

Has anyone used Google Picasa to host pictures on forums?

I don't think you can hotlink to Picasa.

15 bucks + shipping for 5 pairs. I thought headroom shipping was like 10 bucks or something.

All you need to do is call Headroom. I ordered Ety tips from them last week and was charged $1 for shipping them in a padded envelope.

I wrote Elusive Disc, and they'll be getting them in stock early next week. I'm waiting on a price check.

I'm sure we'll all be interested to hear the results of the price check, not that I have any $$ to invest in stats right now.

I use the 160 classic mostly in my car. amazing driving around with 75gb worth of music at ur hands..

Dude, you drive an Audio, get a phatbox you slacker. Less storage, way fracken cooler. I had one in my S4 and it was the tits.

And I guess with my purchase of the devil, I mean Zune, I'm officially off this team.

well, i'd counter your counter with a "that's just like, your opinion, man."

Lebowski, ftw.

i agree, but i still think the 650s are a little soft for "brutality."

And I'd counter that most of the really hard stuff lacks a bit when it comes production value so searching for some ideal headphones that are only going to point out the glaring flaws in the recording seems fruitless.

If you haven't bothered to amp the 650s properly I think you're going about this the wrong way. When driven by something with some real balls I don't take issue with much the HD650s do, and at a fraction of the cost of the HP-2s and L3Ks which are going to take every bit the amplifier that the 650s will to sound great.