deepak Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 Northstar M192 DAC (thanks Reks) Neat optical illusion. the faceplate is not wavy aluminum like it looks from the front. Back: Certainly a dynamite looking product. just some chicken scratch (upsampling turned on at all times, will mess around with it later), all testing was done switching back and forth. Started off with some John Zorn's Electric Masada and then some early King Crimson and Tool. I think the Lavry is still a very dynamic DAC, but the Northstar takes it to a whole different level. Loud sounds are huge, dynamic shifts (both macro and micro) sound incredibly lifelike. Dire Strait's Brothers In Arms/Communique (both WG Target discs) is sublime. I've only been using the HP-2 so far but I'm itching to take out the K1000 and the Star Wars soundtracks. Female vocals - Jane Monheit is my latest obsession, she has such a sexy voice. I use the track Honeysuckle Rose to really hear her voice and it has some nice piano and double bass to go with it. Eargasms, breath of life whatever you want to call it it's there (which leads me to believe the M192 has more midrange detail, but more on that with more listening), the piano and double bass carry more weight and have their own space. Isis - Wrists of Kings - the opening drum hits... this is what the HP-2 is about. More forward sound of the Lavry gives the illusion that it's more exciting, but dynamics hit home with the M192. Tan Dun/ Yo-Yo Ma - Night Fight (Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon OST) - drum hits much, much harder. Attack is very snappy. Rage Against the Machine - The Battle for Mexico City (live) - more of that PRaT goodness. basslines/drums continue to impress. I always thought Tim's bass guitar was mixed a little lower than the rest of the instruments/vocals, nope. There has to be more midrange detail, on Bulls on Parade when Morello is doing that funky thing with his guitar you can hear it echo off, as well as some of the feedback/HF distortion from the amp; all these details are present on the Lavry but it sounds more natural on the M192. If you like RatM pretty much a must have recording/DVD. Necronomicon - Tips Zum Selbstmord (crazy drugged out German krautrock guitar meltdown, let's just say I'd own a tube if only to listen to this album over and over. Haven't heard electric guitar like this on solid state) - there's this weird guy singing in gibberish at the beginning and you can actually hear his voice echo as if it's bouncing off some walls. Bass lines more palpable. The Northstar has more air and space to breath in the midrange and higher registers. The Northstar is a tiny bit more laid back (like comparing the HP-2 with an RS-1 but not as extreme), but I still find the Lavry is incredibly fatigue free to listen to (I've spent many long sessions with it). The midrange isn't completely neutral, if the Lavry is considered neutral. The upper bass is also a tiny bit more pronounced on the Northstar. Very smooth sounding piece I like. Also the Northstar outputs a louder than my Lavry @ 25, so I did my best to volume match the Lavry. The higher output on the Northstar is slightly annoying since I have to use my HP-2 at 8 o'clock for most recordings (on the Melos) instead of 10 or 11. Like the Lavry the M192 can playback 24/96 needle drops. Soundstage and imaging are up next, I'd like to hear more classical and jazz. But already this is making me want to relisten to my entire music collection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
granodemostasa Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 nice dac.... But i have to say that dynamics have always been the lavry's largest weak point, glad to see you upgraded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ojnihs Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 nice, congratz on the "new" DAC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postjack Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 woot, grats man. but hey, get that mmf-5 up and running. it don't even NEED a dac! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerius Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 And here, we see the trickle down theory of economics in effect... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepak Posted May 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 woot, grats man. but hey, get that mmf-5 up and running. it don't even NEED a dac! Man I know I need to put together my Bugle and remount the cart. But every time I have a stretch of free time I leave the house. The TT thing is going to take a while to get setup right. And here, we see the trickle down theory of economics in effect... The only way is to buy used Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postjack Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 The only way is to buy used Believe this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerius Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 The only way is to buy used Yup, now you gotta find a new source for Reks to buy so you can scoop up his Audio Aero Capitole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanoha Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 Nice source! Two weeks ago I got my first source upgrade in over a year. Yays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelonious Monk Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 Nice source! Two weeks ago I got my first source upgrade in over a year. Yays. there is no upgrade path from the zhaolu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepak Posted May 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 I think my next digital upgrade will be a Squeezebox, then I can finally say I'll be done for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanoha Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 I think my next digital upgrade will be a Squeezebox, then I can finally say I'll be done for a while. Sig upgrade time for you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenW Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 I think my next digital upgrade will be a Squeezebox, then I can finally say I'll be done for a while. Squeezebox is a fine idea and a great addition to a system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_maher Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 Congrats on the new source! With a little bit of luck I'll be able to post some details of one of my digital upgrades this week. I just finished the last bit of soldering now, all that's left is assembly and testing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepak Posted May 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 I look forward to spending many more hours with it. I played a few poor recordings (Blackfield, Neal Morse) and the M192 is just as unforgiving as the DA10 :'( But I'm really enjoying the good stuff, DCC classics, newer Hoffman, first edition CDs, needle drops all sound so good. Still haven't got around to listening to the K1000, the HP-2 boogey factor is stealing all my time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ojnihs Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 Did you really think Blackfield was that bad of a recording? I didn't think it was that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepak Posted May 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 Did you really think Blackfield was that bad of a recording? I didn't think it was that bad. I mentioned this on the SH forums but I hear distortion on the drums and cymbal hits. It's really bad on My Gift of Silence and Where Is My Love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepak Posted May 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 I think I finally have my head wrapped around this DAC. left/right headstage is a bit smaller than the DA10. But it has much more depth, making it sound more like the recording is all around you. Imaging is also just as good as the Lavry, but it feels like instruments have more space to breath (albeit small on the HP-2). Side note I'm very happy with the Joe Grado Ultra-Wide Bandwidth Reference cables between the DAC and amp. At the price I got them for I'm very pleased with how they compare to my DIY Kimber TCSS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanoha Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 These recent threads are really making me want to upgrade my source again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepak Posted May 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 According to your signature you have four sources...no need to upgrade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_maher Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 Well, I'm happy to report that one half of my source upgrade is now complete. What started life as this: Is now this! This all started when I discovered that I knew the owner of HifiDIY through my Millett Hybrid PCB connections. I ordered up a kit and after dealing with the pain that was customs losing a bunch of parts the transport was completed about an hour ago and is now confirmed as working. It's a bummer that for whatever reason it is not compatible with the Denon DAC that I have on loan from Ian but it works just dandy with my HT receiver so I don't think there's a problem with the transport. I'll take some pron shots later with the top cover off if I can stand the idea of taking it apart again. And I'll also be posting a build diary at some point in the DIY forum for anyone interested. Please excuse me, I really must get to work on my DAC! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humanflyz Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 Wow that looks very nice, what's the kit called? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt Peanuts Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 The transport looks real nice, Nate - and it's a top-loader to boot! I wish I was getting a new source, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ojnihs Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 god damn that looks sweet. congratz on the new source. is it for redbook cds? it looks small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenW Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 Very nice. Wish I had the talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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