Can I ask what you do for a living? I can't imagine dealing with deviants without having run into them before.

I'm a supervisor at a long-term addictions treatment center. Re sexual deviants, we've got the full-range from vanilla to way out there. Just had to transfer a guy from Chicago as we felt he needed a "more structured" type of care. He was compulsively (as in all day) into...well...feces, and he's not been the weirdest, but we'll leave that alone. I've worked there eight years. I went back to school to pick up my grad degree and was a fairly happy middle school teacher until I realized I couldn't afford it. I make twice as much just working weekends here. So it's me and the deviants, along with the garden variety drunks, crackheads, and junkies. Most of the time, I like it.

how does someone get into feces? that's like super uncool.

...and gross.

Boomana -- oh, so when you said "addicts" you meant literally "drug addicts", not like net.addicts (like me) or sexual addicts (as I originally took your meaning).

So do you only work weekends now? Or did you change it to a regular 9-5?

...and gross.

Boomana -- oh, so when you said "addicts" you meant literally "drug addicts", not like net.addicts (like me) or sexual addicts (as I originally took your meaning).

I mean addicts as people usually mean addicts: alcholics, junkies, crackheads, gambling addicts, sex addicts, eating disordered folk, and, as is more common at our facility, combos of the above. When I said, sexual addicts, I meant that literally. People with compulsions that pretty much get in the way of normal interaction, be it with prostitutes (sometimes many times a day), internet porn til raw, or breaking into the neighbors' houses to steal panties, and even weirder stuff. I'm not talking about those that are just into S&M or fetish whatnots, though many of our patients are, but when it reaches a point they can't hold jobs or their families hate them or the law becomes involved, just like any other addict, they show up at our door, if they still have lots of money. Sad, but true. We treat the wealthy.

PFKMan23: Yes, I still work only weekends (32-hrs) and sometimes pick up a day or two here or there if I want to fund a new toy.

how does someone get into feces? that's like super uncool.

There are some things which are better off left unknown. This is one of them. As is Dolphinsex.

Damn, 32 hours over 2 days is still brutal.

PFKMan23: Yes, I still work only weekends (32-hrs) and sometimes pick up a day or two here or there if I want to fund a new toy.

That's crazy! It takes me 4 days to work that many hours, and once lunch breaks and so forth are counted in it takes a bit under 5 days for me to rack that many actual work hours.

...and gross.

Boomana -- oh, so when you said "addicts" you meant literally "drug addicts", not like net.addicts (like me) or sexual addicts (as I originally took your meaning).

I believe addiction in this case means a continued behavior in the face of mounting consequences. It the consequences that define addiction. Net addicts don't have very many consequences but sex addicts have financial, legal and relationship consequences and an addict will continue with that behavior.

There are some things which are better off left unknown. This is one of them. As is Dolphinsex.

Egad, man! To think that you even went to find that out. Perhaps I should send you a brochure

Damn, 32 hours over 2 days is still brutal.

Yes, but then I have the rest of the week off. Last year, I taught middle school during the week and did that job during the weekends. That was brutal, and I really had to watch my language come Monday morning.

I believe addiction in this case means a continued behavior in the face of mounting consequences. It the consequences that define addiction. Net addicts don't have very many consequences but sex addicts have financial, legal and relationship consequences and an addict will continue with that behavior.

Pretty much. It's not so much that consequences define addiction, but the inablity to stop or change in the face of mounting consequences, as you so aptly phrased it, is a huge indicator that someone needs help.

oh, dolphinsex was found by SomethingAwful years ago, everyone knows about that

I am happily behind the times on that one.

I am happily behind the times on that one.

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i personally find the depths of human depravity to be fascinating, as long as it's at least somewhat abstracted.

This is NOT for the light hearted: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2613590

Worst part is he posts on a music forum I'm on and seems like a normal guy \

That's pretty out there, but doesn't suprise me. On a perfectly casual day, I had a guy offer me $500 to let me let him clean my tile grout while he wore a little maid's outfit (this, btw, was not connected to current job). I turned him down, which was almost sad as I would have liked my tile grout cleaned. I just didn't want him in my home.

the way he is talking about the experience is very similar to a friend of mine who was a prostitute, especially the detachment.

Yeah later on he mentions it effects his sex life (something along the lines of having no sex drive) which is a shame since he's engaged to a really good looking girl.

That's pretty out there, but doesn't suprise me. On a perfectly casual day, I had a guy offer me $500 to let me let him clean my tile grout while he wore a little maid's outfit (this, btw, was not connected to current job). I turned him down, which was almost sad as I would have liked my tile grout cleaned. I just didn't want him in my home.

That's up there in creep factor

i don't normally consider acts between consenting sapients to be depraved, anyway.

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on the other topic, addiction can be anything that makes one's life unmanageable.

the way he is talking about the experience is very similar to a friend of mine who was a prostitute, especially the detachment.

Yeah he is totally chill and nonchalant about that, I seriously believe this experience has damaged his soul. That is some f'd up shit. That story with the sorority girl, man thats hardcore, not a single sound?

People are fucking wierd. Whatever happened to boobs and asses turning you on? Sorry for the females here

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I would have liked my tile grout cleaned. I just didn't want him in my home.

Quoted for appreciation. [me=Dusty Chalk]makes a mental note -- if ever offering to clean someone's grout, where the women's clothing underneath the more manly clothing.[/me]

it's not so much that people are weird, though. brains are, generally, poorly wired, as many sections are simply side effects of general mammalian evolution with little to no pressure applied to those aspects to make them efficient and homogeneous. in other words, the longer a trait has evolved, and the more pressure has come to bare, the more homogeneous that trait is within a population. a strong argument can be that the lack of environmental pressure put on higher human brain functions is what allows us to be such a varied species with so many different opinions and thoughts. that lack of standardization through environmental pressure thus allows some brains to be wired with pain and pleasure creating a "circuit."

Interesting thought. Though as an intelligent species, I disagree that there is a lack of environmental pressure, specific to the higher human brain functions.

"clean someone's grout" sounds like a euphemism for something lurid

reks, do you need a two week time out? I've been locking threads, I'll give you a time out if need be! I have the powah!

it's not so much that people are weird, though. brains are, generally, poorly wired, as many sections are simply side effects of general mammalian evolution with little to no pressure applied to those aspects to make them efficient and homogeneous. in other words, the longer a trait has evolved, and the more pressure has come to bare, the more homogeneous that trait is within a population. a strong argument can be that the lack of environmental pressure put on higher human brain functions is what allows us to be such a varied species with so many different opinions and thoughts. that lack of standardization through environmental pressure thus allows some brains to be wired with pain and pleasure creating a "circuit."

As to this, if I could respond with a picture of a shirt:

the human brain is capable of amazing transformation. the cards one has been dealt do not necessarily a person make.

i would say there is no real consistent, fairly long term environmental pressure working on the frontal lobe, consistent and long term being the keys. i would love to be corrected, if you have any evolutionary anthropology examples.

Specific to the frontal lobe I would agree

But theres more higher thought centers than just that in the frontal lobe.

As to this, if I could respond with a picture of a shirt:

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the human brain is capable of amazing transformation. the cards one has been dealt do not necessarily a person make.

Does it come in black? KC ftw

This is NOT for the light hearted: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2613590

Worst part is he posts on a music forum I'm on and seems like a normal guy \

I don't know dude. That thread reeks of ... hmmm... I can't place that smell...what is it?...can't put my finger on it...oh, yeah: