brat Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Untill now I read only severe negative posts for SRM-727II. But I still can't find anywhere concrete opinion what's the problem with this Stax amp. I see most people own SRM-007tII, SRM-006t and even SRM-717 but not the 727 How many of you had the opportunity to compare 727II with another amps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ojnihs Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 i haven't, but welcome to head-case! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeggy Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Me either, Hi brat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krrm Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 If anyone needs help to burn in their SRM-727II, I think I can help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 If anyone needs help to burn in their SRM-727II, I think I can help FOTM FOTM FOTM FOTM FOTM FOTM FOTM... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin gilmore Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 The 727 is supposed to be a similar design to the 717 with the output stage dissipating about 3 times the power, therefore a more extended high frequency and low frequency response. If it really sounds much worse, there certainly could be a number of reasons, but i would be surprised if on a casual basis anyone could tell the difference between the two. Unless stax made some kind of horrible mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spritzer Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 I didn't compare them directly but I did compare them against a known reference and I preferred the 717. I found the 727 to be too warm and slow for my liking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brat Posted February 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 How many of you had the opportunity to compare 727II with another amps? No one. I don't mean a brief listening of 727II but a more detailed comparison. I've noticed that one term listening can't give me the complete picture of one component. It depends on many conditions - technical, psychological, etc. Often the first impression is quite different from my final conclusion... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anders Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Nice clarification, thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint.panda Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 What's the going price for a 717? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spritzer Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 800-1000$ is the norm but you can find higher and lower as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint.panda Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Hm, I'm eyeing that Omega II with 717 interest check on headfi. Has the right voltage, too, 230V. Do you think something like $2200 is a realistic offer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postjack Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Hm, I'm eyeing that Omega II with 717 interest check on headfi. Has the right voltage, too, 230V. Do you think something like $2200 is a realistic offer? I think thats a very realistic offer, though I've seen the for sale prices on used OII/amp combos vary wildly, from $2000 to $3000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spritzer Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 If the set is in great condition then that is a very fair price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint.panda Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Cool, thanks guys. Excellent condition as far as I know with flight case and everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 800-1000$ is the norm but you can find higher and lower as usual. damn, i shoulda snapped up the 717 that an aussie was selling for AUD$700. too bad i was broke =( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeggy Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Pah, you think that's bad. I bookmarked this to keep an eye on it with a view to buying if it didn't go too high, then this happened with over a day to go.... http://cgi.ebay.com/STAX-SRM-1-Mk-2-Headphone-Amplifier_W0QQitemZ200203586023QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item200203586023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 wtf. surely he didn't let it go for $23.50... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint.panda Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Just bought the SR-007/717 package for $2300 shipped. Saw some pictures, perfect condition, really nice. Gotta love the weak dollar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spritzer Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Congrats!! It's tough to do better at that price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt Peanuts Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Congrats on the new gears! Gotta love the weak dollar. Hey, someone's gotta take advantage of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brat Posted April 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Something strange about the 727II : Today I measured bias voltage 318V In the specifications of 727II the bias voltage is shown as 580V so can anyone explain me why is it less? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin gilmore Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 You can't measure the bias at the front panel connector without a real VTVM. Digital meters are way to low in impedance... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brat Posted April 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Dear Kevin, we used a Yokogawa 7532 03 DMM, which measured ~380Vdc before the ballast resisitor (4.7Meg), falling to 312Vdc on the pin. OK, maybe the DMM drew some current when measuring bias voltage on the pin, but the voltage before the resistor comes from a low-impedance source, so the problem remains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin gilmore Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 Something is definitely wrong with the bias circuit if you measure only 380 volts before the ballast resistor. Likely one of the 2 diodes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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