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I removed the positive reg and discovered it still worked on my bench supply. Soldering the pins onto these is getting harder for me, and I think one of the solder joints on this one was bad and disconnected when I had the amp running the other day. I think I may have lifted a pad, so will probably order another reg and figure out a better way to hold the reg and the pin(s) when soldering. These things are small. I hooked my amp up to the bench supply just to confirm the currents I was seeing and it was in range. Mine was actually higher at 330/320mA +/-, but mine is built using MPSW thru hole transistors with creative lead bending.
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The original reg did not work using my bench supply. The new reg (the now dead one) worked fine off my bench supply, but I haven't removed it yet since it went bad. The data sheet notes that these are supposed to go into protection when stressed. I presume that once they go into protection, they are supposed to come out of it once things settle down without the user having to do anything. I've never been around when the bad stuff has been happening. This time, I left the amp running on the bench (no signal), and when I returned, it had failed. Do Amb's regs have a reputation for oscillating? In this amp, the electolytic caps are Elna Silmic IIs, which I presume are not low ESR (the owner mandated these). I'll poke around Amb's forum and see if anyone noted oscillation.
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Question time: One of the people I built a mini dynalo for sent it back to me for repair. They apparently had something stacked on top of it with it on for a day. When they turned it on the next day, no workee. When I got it, the first thing I noticed as only 2 of the 4 pcb leds were on, and sure enough, the positive reg (amb) had bit it. I went ahead and removed that and ordered another reg. While waiting for that, I powered it using my bench supply and didn't find anything wrong that I could find. DC offset was fine, bias was fine. Did a diode test on all of the output transistors with no problem. When the replacement reg got here, I went ahead and put it in after seeing no issues on the bench supply, and it turned on fine. This weekend, I was going to get it finished up to return the amp, and went ahead and let it run for an hour or so with the heatsinks on, but much of the case missing. When I went back down to check on it, the offset was around -900mV and then I noticed that 2 of the leds were off. Positive reg bit it again. I went down tonight and measured the +/- rail currents at +288mA and -278mA after running for quite awhile on the bench supply. These regs are supposed to handle up to 1A each, and have thermal protection. I took a heat gun and noticed the current was going up pretty fast when I was heating the output section; up to over 350mA after a short time and climbing. I did not wait to see how far it might go. I have no idea how hot one of these could get with something sitting on top of it, but I'm guessing quite hot. I know the regs current capability will vary with heat and how much voltage they are dropping, which in the case of these is 4V(24V in, 20V out). I'm injecting the bench power on the electrolytic 100uf caps. There are (4) 100uf tantalum polymer caps following the electros, which may not like heat much? I don't know. Amb's regs are up to $30 ea. with $10 shipping, so I don't want to keep burning these up. Just looking for ideas on where to look next?
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Happy Birthday Craig!
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Happy Birthday Naaman! I hope the audio venture is going well!
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Happy Birthday Colin!
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Happy Birthday Steve! I hope you have a great one!
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Industry I started watching this in the beginning and kind of thought of it as junk in the beginning. A bunch of new hires in a London bank/brokerage vie for permanent positions. Someone described the show as a cross between Euphoria and Succession, and can kind of see that analogy. It is in Season 4 now, and has gotten much much better. A lot of very unlikeable self-centered people, but for some reason I enjoy watching it. Kinda like waiting for the next car crash.
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Happy belated Birthday!
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Happy Birthday Mike! Hope all is well.
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Happy Birthday Grahame!
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I'll take Things that never happened for $500 Alex...
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Happy Birthday!
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Happy Birthday!
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I'm pretty sure I just used the Lite-On LTST-C170CKT LEDs and the 402R resistors.
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I don't know that there is much difference between them, and since I've never been successful mounting the QFN packages, I don't know about any heat difference, but I would think the regulator contribution to this is swamped by the 32 PZTAs. If I could have mounted these successfully, that is the way I would have gone. After building 4 of these, wishlist for changes/additions to the board would be: Addition of Kevin's balanced protector circuit, with a manual mute switch. Implementation of a delay circuit (5 seconds) for power application to the board to allow for the Meanwell bricks to come up at the same time. I determined that this was the source of the large DC offset I was seeing on the SE output when the amp is fired up. #1 above could take care of this if you made sure to mute the output for a couple of seconds while it is powering up. These things do run hot. I have one of the ones I built for another user back for repair after it was left on with something on top of it. Amb notes on his forum when replying to a user who used his regs in a piece of Bryston equipment that they don't like heat very well. Since the LDO reg is really the only thing on his boards, this must mean that those reg chips don't like heat much. The GB boards were done using 3oz copper, making them about as good of a heatsink as you are going to get from a PCB (and a huge pain to work with).
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Started watching "The Beast In Me" on Netflix, with Claire Danes and Matthew Rhys. Supposedly uses the production team from "Homeland", which I always like. The series follows an author (Danes) who begins writing a book about her new next-door neighbor (Rhys), a real estate executive who allegedly killed his wife. Two episodes in, and it has captured my attention.
