April 10, 200917 yr Author Final updated tally : $1385 Contributors : dB / Batman / Pabbi / Forsakenrider / NoNoNoNoNoNo / guzziguy / cfcubed / wiatrob / smeggy / headphoneaddict ferrari / amphead / germania aka childofthehorn / digger945 / postal_blue / nikongod MrMajestic2 / adamus / tacitapproval / Alcaudon / nmaher / anon / ferrari / moodysteve chobint / fishski13 / fordgtlover / linuxworks / vixr / MrSlim / jp11801 / kklee / balderon krmathis / AMB / MASantos / MisterX / TomB / sacd lover / scompton / Uncle Bob / ericj / holland Elephas / V-DiV / Hayduke / naamanf / jrossel / rds / user18 / willisv / pars / tintin47 / zkool448 OK Folk, I am going to start wrapping this up and thus the final decision time is near. I am going to send all involved a pm with a voting option. The Primary vote is going to be between HD800 and Eagle + HP , the second tier vote is going to be between HD600 , K701 and RS1. To be clear we have the choice between the HD800 or Eagle and another headphone. The way I am going to tally the votes is via the 2 tier approach - first round goes up against the HD800 , if this has majority vote, it stops there. If not, we move on to voting between the HD600 / K701 or RS1. I will count the first vote listed and post results once available. I have cleared space in my pm box and will conduct all voting via pm ( or e-mail ) , feel free to spat it out publicly but the tally in my inbox is what will finally decide the choice. Thank you to everyone for participating ( and feel free to join in if the desire strikes you still ) , perhaps smeggy will grace us with an update of his mighty fine work. ..dB
April 10, 200917 yr Let me add one thing: Given the current state of the Poor Man's sim issues with Eagle, I was able to subtly (and in the context of the current development) inquire if, in his opinion, the full up Eagle (or some other tool) would be of any benefit. He did not indicate he thought it would, perhaps thinking I was suggesting him buy it. Nonetheless, I get no feel that he thinks Eagle is worth paying for. Nor did he respond to my query about what other tools might be better, so we have no input about how he values the simulation tools, especially after Eagle has 'failed' to date in the Stacker II and Poor Man's Stat amp simulations. Another factor is the availability of the hd800 - no man knows the hour (day / month / year) they will be available, but should know by the end of April, and maybe even the April in this year. I still vote hd800, and will do so properly in email.
April 10, 200917 yr Good points pabbi1 - thanks for trying to play espionage and get some answers from Alex.
April 10, 200917 yr Well, if full up Eagle isn't gonna sim power supplies better than what he is using now, I'm not sure about bang for buck - and, let's remember Ferrari is more interested in esoteric designs than meat and potatoes. No matter to me, as I'm a sushi guy, but, if Alex really thought an Eagle upgrade would meet 99.5% of his need, he'd just buy it. Which begs the question - what tool would better help him simulate and troubleshoot circuits? Autoroute? Long time since I looked at sim s/w. But, he was not a happy camper Saturday when we found a material weakness in the PM psu. Having said that, not sure any s/w solution would help when assumptions, well, accept a calciulated risk. I
April 11, 200917 yr Yeah, my bad - Eagle is just a layout / router. I did get confirmation today he has excellent sim resources, so SPICE, OrCad, etc wouldn't be of use either. That said, the sim software is NOT our current problem - it seems the 5% parts, NOT being matched is causing drift for edge conditions. That all said, not sure what the Eagle gives Alex other than bigger boards and more components, unless I am clueless again, which I'm OK with, since I am long removed with circuit sw tools. But, I placed my vote, and we'll see what comes from it all.
April 11, 200917 yr Author To give you an idea where we sit with the voting Tier 1 eagle 16 HD800 12 Tier 2 HD600 10 K701 2 RS1 5 AD2000 9 ..dB
April 11, 200917 yr thems some yummy looking cups Gary! (whats with that strange 'wing' on the baffle?)
April 11, 200917 yr To give you an idea where we sit with the voting Tier 1 eagle 16 HD800 12 Tier 2 HD600 10 K701 2 RS1 5 AD2000 9 This is no fair! Probably less people have heard the AD2000 than the other three headphones. Presumably those who haven't won't vote the AD2000. Therefore I think the AD2000 should get an automatic +10 votes. -- BTW, what are the additional funds needed for Eagle + HD800? Wouldn't that make everyone happy?
April 11, 200917 yr Author This is no fair! Probably less people have heard the AD2000 than the other three headphones. Presumably those who haven't won't vote the AD2000. Therefore I think the AD2000 should get an automatic +10 votes. well some folk have misinterpreted and listed both hd600 and ad2k - I guess as editor I could err in favour of my preferred choice -- BTW, what are the additional funds needed for Eagle + HD800? Wouldn't that make everyone happy? that would be the full cost of eagle - iirc $550 I am not convinced that everyone will ever be happy ..dB
April 11, 200917 yr thems some yummy looking cups Gary! (whats with that strange 'wing' on the baffle?) cheers! the 'wing' is a rear pad ramp, inside that wing is a strip of sponge rubber to give ear clearance for comfort. If you look at the hand held pic you can see how deep the pad to driver space is at the back. I hate getting my ears squished like most, so I'm trying to make them as comfy as I can with the standard pads. The baffle also has a sheet of fine nylon mesh over it for added protection that doesn't affect the sound.
April 11, 200917 yr As for choices, I'm not a fan of the 600, 701 or RS-1 and haven't heard the AD2k so I'm abstaining from voting.
April 11, 200917 yr Author yeah but you like holding your head between a thousand volts with those membrane thingimebobs, something's gotta give ..dB
April 11, 200917 yr I am not convinced that everyone will ever be happy QFT And: nice job Smeggy bean!
April 12, 200917 yr done! I couldn't use the AKG band as the elastics and rings aren't designed for the extra weight of sealing pads. I did use the headstrap though to make the Fostex band more comfy. Anyway, hope you likes
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