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i'm on a roll... the kgsshv


kevin gilmore

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WOT? only 1.21 jigawatts. That's only 0.00000000000000000000000000334 Googlewatts.

Which is only 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000.5 factorial...

Hope mine will look even half as good..!!

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Thanks for the compliments guys.

I just wanted a clean "econo-build", nothing fancy to help keep the price down.

Kerry, you're right about the "start saving".

I heard an O2 Mk1 (I believe n3rdling's) through the KGSSHV at the meet last weekend.

All I can say is WOW!!!

His Blue Hawaii with the original Omegas trumped that experience. I AM IN AWE!

Now where am I gonna find $11K for a BHSE and a SR-009?

Aint gonna happen soon unless I were to win the lottery.

Think I'll stay content with what I got. It does sound nice. :D

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My power supply is still not working :(

Q8 and D1 were fried at first test and had a short. I changed them and also Q1/Q2. But Q1/Q2 were ok, no change. I get ~50V output voltage at the positive rail. The negative rail is working. The other transistors in the positive rail seem to be ok. A diode test was ok and there're also no shorts. The LM4040-10 has the desired 10V. What should I try next? My next idea is changing all the other transistors. Is there a schematic with operating points like AMB has?

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No, nothing exists that shows test point voltages.

If you read back about seven pages, you will see that I asked similar questions and had similar findings.

When this happened to me, I also found the 100ohm resistors in the battery sub-circuit to be fried

as well as the 2SC3381 sand. Since I wasnt having any luck with understanding how the battery outputs work,

that coupled with the negative rail still bad and the positive rail working but not regulating under load,

I gave up and went to a simpler iteration of the power supply circuit sans battery, using a zener string instead.

FWIW, I started researching older psu designs on KG's HeadWize site, then tripped across his earlier psu design

in this thread. It all made perfect sense to me now. This I could understand and implement. Worked fine for me.

I would like to revert to the battery regulator design, but wont for now until those questions are answered

regarding it's function and input/output voltage test points.

So long story short, I left the crippled battery circuits in place and cut some traces

to disable current flow through them and soldered in the zener strings(3ea@150V-5W) as shown in the schematics below.

kgsshvps2.pdf

post-2625-0-03359700-1303848974_thumb.jp

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That's good to hear, so I guess the design of the battery circuit is a sound one.

Please remember that I initiated the trouble both times. (blew it up)

I suspect that rille's woes were from HV shorting to the heatsink, but i'm guessing here.

This battery sub-circuit is shrouded in mystery to me.

It seems that after things "went sideways" I could not get the battery circuits to function

properly no matter what I did. I got tired of shooting in the dark. Then I saw the (zener) light.

I know they are probably noisier and may not regulate down to the last nanoamp, but should be good enough.

You have used them in most of your previous psu's.

Without knowing the inner workings of the battery circuit I have a gut feeling concern about

the 2SC3381 sand and the two 100 ohm resistors sitting right on the -450 volt rail.

They do seem like a weak link and fried on me both times I shorted things out upstream.

I'm just a tech, not a design engineer. I dont have an understanding of exotic circuits such as current tunnels.

It would be nice to have a "blow by blow" on how this battery circuit functions.

That is one of the things that I appreciated while reading about your stat amp designs in your HeadWize site.

Though not detailed, the sub-circuits were explained in a way that a novice could grasp or at least research further.

Anyhow, blah-blah-blah. Please excuse my moaning.

I am really happy to have a functioning stat amp even if it was a little over my head to build.

There will not be a T2 in my future.

Next thing for me is to learn what I need to test the audio output on the KGSSHV for quality.

I may take it to a lab, cause I have no idea what is needed to test audio that has a 900 volt swing.

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This battery sub-circuit is shrouded in mystery to me.

Without knowing the inner workings of the battery circuit I have a gut feeling concern about

the 2SC3381 sand and the two 100 ohm resistors sitting right on the -450 volt rail.

They do seem like a weak link and fried on me both times I shorted things out upstream.

I'm just a tech, not a design engineer. I dont have an understanding of exotic circuits such as current tunnels.

It would be nice to have a "blow by blow" on how this battery circuit functions.

If you have a poke around on the T2 thread, I got under the skin of the battery while diagnosing multiple faults (caused by Chinese counterfeit 2SC3675's), including modelling it to work out the strategy for adjusting the original circuit's two pots.

KG has updated and upgraded the circuit to get rid of the LED chain and JFET, but the operating principle is the same.

In brief:

Q4/Q5 are a long tailed pair that compare 10V from the reference with the voltage set on RV2. Q6/Q7 are DC level shifters to keep Q4, Q5 and Q8 inside the VceBR voltage at which they blow up. Q8 is a Widlar current mirror. This has a very high impedance, and is there to increase the gain of the long tailed pair - standard practice in IC's and high quality discrete designs.

As you adjust RV1, the current through Q4 and Q5 is forced to be equal by the current mirror - so both increase in step. The output voltage is taken from Q8B - which is electrically equivalent to taking it from the collector of Q5 if we disregard the level shifter.

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http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/kgsshvpower4.pdf

http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/kgsshvps7e.jpg

http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/kgsshvps7e.zip

current limiters as suggested by doug,

place for add on board for doug's regulator chip

mounting hole size increased for #6-32

multiple build options including zeners only for

simple and cheaper. (well cheap is a relative term)

amplifier with on board heatsinks

http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/kgsshvampv6.jpg

http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/kgsshvampv6.zip

amplifier for mounting to wall of the pesante case

http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/kgsshvampv7.jpg

http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/kgsshvampv7.zip

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I saw the link but it was dead...

Thanks for the heads up - I changed ISP's when the one I used to be with (Hotchilli.com :dinny: ) had a server crash and failed to recover the folder containg images. Staggering incompetence :indra:

I'll find the images and upload them again - and then post the link.

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Good evening,

I will launch the construction of a kgsshv. But I have some questions.

I made a drawing of the internal wiring (with only one channel), I do not know what is a "CT" and I'm not sure of the connections, especially at the RCA.

Thank you for completed my drawing.

And I would like to knows where buy my transfo for my voltage (220V)

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/220/cablageinternebeta.jpg/

Additionally I modeled an amp in a box Hifi2000, it costs about $ 220

kgsshvamp.png

kgsshvlogo.png

panelkgsshv.png

Thank you :)

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center tap is optional.

and i have an even newer and slightly simpler high voltage supply coming soon.

less parts, and the battery thing flipped upside down, and reference is now lt1021-10

because in fact it outperforms the lm4040-10 by a major amount.

Long story on the lm4040 part...

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