Yes, Mach3, I fully agree with you. I hoped for some confirmation and backing by expertise for my pure guess. It was really only a guess because I never had any HiFiMan (or CheapFiMan , I like it .... cheap but very expensive...) in my hands. As Birgir already took HiFiMan headphones completely apart, I could now learn from his postings what cheap build quality is inside.
And of course, I never listend to any HiFiMan, so any opinions and experiences like yours help me, here.
And yes, how to test and compare when things are so extremely expensive and difficult to find as a demo device in a store. So, forums like this (or maybe better head-fi as the guys told me, here 😉) can open eyes (or ears).
For me, it resembles to be a quite strange or unexpected new phenomenon that during the last 5 to 10 years so very many new "ultra mega bling-bling TOTL" headphones emerged in the market that was cultivated solely by STAX for decades (nearly STAX, only, but others appeared and disappeared again, like Sennheiser Orpheus 1, AKG K1000, Jecklin Float, and I don't know).
But now:
Sennheiser HE-1 incl. amp and DAC => 60,000 Euros (with special colours, marble, cables, bling-bling and other BS it can go up to 120,000 Euros )
HiFiMan Shangri-La Sr incl. amp => 50,000 - 60,000 Euros
HiFiMan Shangri-La Jr incl. amp => 14,000 Euros (?? I am not sure. But something around that value)
HiFiMan Susvara incl. amp => 14,000 Euros (?? I am not sure. But something around that value)
T+A Solitaire P and HA 200 Amp => 11,400 Euros
Warwick Aperio incl. amp and DAC => 25,000 Euros
Abyss AB-1266 Phi TC => 5,500 - 8,000 Euros + price for the amp (??)
Dan Clark (MrSpeakers) Voce => 3,500 Euros + price for the amp (??)
Focal Utopia
... ?? Anything else? I really do not know, electrostats, planar magnetostats and dynamic TOTL headphones in a really hard competition
Incredible line-up, isn't it? What an exploding luxury headphone market! Is this luxury headphone market so big that all can survive? But maybe only for brand image like "Formula One" for car manufacturers to sell the mass market stuff.
BTW, who buys headphones for 25,000 ... 60,000 bucks? Audiophiles or sheiks?
All those brands above tell us that their TOTL headphones are the world's best (of course they do ) but even Tyll and other professional reviewers quite support many of them.
Two questions ...
OK, OK, I know, wrong question, I shouldn't ask this here but at the other forum (head-fi) 😉,
but nevertheless I dare doing this ...
... why? Because here it is allowed to skip all rules and to be "[...] sometimes quite rude, often irreverant, and regularly abusive. [...]"
So again, two questions:
1) Most new extremely (over-?) priced planar TOTL headphones (electrostats/magnetostats) have gold-plated stators, the Sennheiser HE-1, the Warwick Aperio, the Susvara, the Shangri-La, ...
... and now also STAX: The STAX SR-009s. So, is this new golden bling-bling indicating some marketing gag to target on higher prices and exclusive customers? (i.e. marketing bla-bla on stiffer electrodes, lower resonances and better airflow through rounded holes ...) Is the SR-009s really better than the good old SR-009 from 10 years ago (2011) or is it more keeping up within this "shark pool" of TOTL competition as described in my aforementioned list?
2) What about this "best eletrostatic headphone amp in the world", the "Frank Cooter's 845 directly heated amp" which is highly recommended - or better said "praised" - by Jude Mantilla / Head-Fi:
youtube.com/watch?v=U_pY7RI2Yok&feature=emb_logo
( at 8:50 )
Of course, it is not obtainable, and if so, for an unaffordable price 😉
Is it better than the Blue Hawaii BHSE, the KG GG or the DIY T2 (only tube amps mentioned, here, so I did not mention the SS amps)???