Craig Sawyers Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 That is really sweet! And hats off to KG for keeping plugging away in the teeth of a cracked knob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin gilmore Posted February 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 I decided to finish off the one with the crack in it, and found out something very interesting. At the same speeds and feedrates that i use for the LV and Rosewood, and with the same carbide tools, the ebony gets stinkin hot. WAY WAY hot. Even with 5 thousandth passes.... Might need some kind of cooling... AH well, on to other hardwoods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swt61 Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 (edited) Not a surprise really, due to the density and hardness. Oil would work as a coolant. It's not like it'll darken the Ebony too much. I'd love to see the Bocote knob when turned! Edited February 7, 2012 by swt61 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin gilmore Posted February 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 bocote, olivewood, cocobolo and redheart on the way. still can't find a piece of snakewood big enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerry Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitz Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 You know, almost everytime I see Kevin post something I have to redefine what "overkill" means to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin gilmore Posted February 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/woodies.jpg the bocote looks a bit dark, who knows... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swt61 Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 It'll change a little once turned, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Sawyers Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 That'll be superb once turned. I'm always amazed when a grotty piece of wood completely changes character once cut. That is part of the joy and grief - what is inside? Make a guess and hope you get the cut right. I hit a goldmine recently at my local wood and tools shop. He'd just got a shipment of Cocobolo turning blanks, about 8-10 inches square and around 2 1/2 inches thick. I got to them first! I rooted around and picked up the best figured pieces - about 15 in all, some smaller, some larger. Cost me £140 for the lot, which is pretty fantastic value. Also picked up some ebony and african blackwood too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wink Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 http://www.ebay.com/itm/SNAKEWOOD-11x3x2-5-Woodturning-Lumber-Pool-Cues-Peppermills-FREE-SHIPPING-/370582451258?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item56486f743a http://www.ebay.com/itm/SNAKEWOOD-10x3x3-Woodturning-Lumber-Pool-Cues-Knife-Gun-Grips-FREE-SHIPPING-/370582445885?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item56486f5f3d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swt61 Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 That'll be superb once turned. I'm always amazed when a grotty piece of wood completely changes character once cut. That is part of the joy and grief - what is inside? Make a guess and hope you get the cut right. I hit a goldmine recently at my local wood and tools shop. He'd just got a shipment of Cocobolo turning blanks, about 8-10 inches square and around 2 1/2 inches thick. I got to them first! I rooted around and picked up the best figured pieces - about 15 in all, some smaller, some larger. Cost me £140 for the lot, which is pretty fantastic value. Also picked up some ebony and african blackwood too. Nice! What are you going to turn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin gilmore Posted February 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Pictures later, the bicote really came out nice, so did the cocobolo. Not really liking the redheart, and the olivewood is so so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Sawyers Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 I'm not into turning - cabinetmaking (just recreational) is my thing. The cocobolo will probably be used in things like lids of jewelry boxes, storage boxes etc, or small cabinets. I'm a follower of Krenov's philosophy of buy wood. Then buy more wood. Then look at it for a long time until a piece suggests itself. Ebony and blackwood I use for contrasting wedges in through tenons. Against a paler wood (and most wood is paler than those!) it is a superb effect. One of the more disappointing woods to work with is purpleheart. Looks absolutely stunning bright purple when first cut, but oxidises slowly to a kind of muddy brown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin gilmore Posted February 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/woodies2.jpg The redheart started cracking about an hour after machining, including the original block. So this one needs to dry out a few years. The olivewood also started cracking, but much smaller cracks. And the bocote started out much lighter and is getting darker as it exposes to air. The bocote and the cocobolo should work out great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra_kai Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Very nice. I like the bocote a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swt61 Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 (edited) I'm not into turning - cabinetmaking (just recreational) is my thing. The cocobolo will probably be used in things like lids of jewelry boxes, storage boxes etc, or small cabinets. I'm a follower of Krenov's philosophy of buy wood. Then buy more wood. Then look at it for a long time until a piece suggests itself. Ebony and blackwood I use for contrasting wedges in through tenons. Against a paler wood (and most wood is paler than those!) it is a superb effect. One of the more disappointing woods to work with is purpleheart. Looks absolutely stunning bright purple when first cut, but oxidises slowly to a kind of muddy brown. I've heard this from several people and it always intrigued me. Here in Texas when I cut Purple Heart it is muddy brown, but within a day it turns a gorgeous Purple color. When I plane it that's really fun...within 5 minutes the little brown shavings turn bright purple. Maybe it's the salt air, temp or humidity down here, but it seems to be the opposite of what most describe. Agreed Kevin, the Cocobolo and Bocote are beautiful! Edited February 10, 2012 by swt61 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wink Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 Why not coat the knobs with a light coat of clear varnish/lacquer to lock the moisture in and prevent oxidisation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Sawyers Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 I've heard this from several people and it always intrigued me. Here in Texas when I cut Purple Heart it is muddy brown, but within a day it turns a gorgeous Purple color. When I plane it that's really fun...within 5 minutes the little brown shavings turn bright purple. Maybe it's the salt air, temp or humidity down here, but it seems to be the opposite of what most describe. In the UK we sit at the triple point of water - so a hell of a lot wetter than Texas. So you're right, maybe what happens to purpleheart is an environment thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Sawyers Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 Why not coat the knobs with a light coat of clear varnish/lacquer to lock the moisture in and prevent oxidisation? Sealing wood is a dangerous thing. As a natural material it likes to breathe, and wax, shellac, danish or teak oil are fine - but polyeurethane is asking for trouble and does not look good either (IMNSHO). The only difficulty is that the wood needs to be well seasoned and without internal tension - if it has that you can actually hear the click or ping as it cracks as you work it. That is the precise instant before you swear like a marine and walk out of the shop to calm down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepak Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 Split these 5 pages off the T2 amp thread. More KaKnobs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Sawyers Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 Good call, deep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swt61 Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 Sealing wood is a dangerous thing. As a natural material it likes to breathe, and wax, shellac, danish or teak oil are fine - but polyeurethane is asking for trouble and does not look good either (IMNSHO). The only difficulty is that the wood needs to be well seasoned and without internal tension - if it has that you can actually hear the click or ping as it cracks as you work it. That is the precise instant before you swear like a marine and walk out of the shop to calm down. Not to mention that certain woods (Cocobolo & Bocote to name two) do not need any finish, due to the oil/resin levels occurring in the wood naturally. You can simply buff either of these woods to a beautiful sheen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin gilmore Posted February 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 (edited) So the diamond tools came in today. And i have a chunk of marble and granite to try and turn into knobs. Should be fun. After that i'll go and find some fancy stone. The redheart is shrinking and the cracks probably won't be visible in about 2 weeks. Should be able to make a few aluminum mounts tomorrow. Need to change the title of the thread to just T2 knob turning since i've already done a titanium one, and a 18k gold one. one of these days .9999 fine platinum. Edited February 15, 2012 by kevin gilmore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepak Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Need to change the title of the thread to just T2 knob turning Done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Sawyers Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 18k gold. Kevin - you sometimes leave me speechless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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